[mysugarap]

what would be a good supplyment for joints and what would be a good hoove supplement?....i am looking for a good supplement for my arabian and a good supplement for my tb....what would you guys suggest and what accally works for your horses? thanks so much

 

[sillybunny11486]

I use grand hoof (best I found for the price and ingredients) and an off brand for joint. Its just glucosamine sulfate at 5000mg per day (per scoope).

 

[Vidaloco]

Any supplement they will eat :lol: I have a couple of picky Polly's as far as supplements go. I prefer ones that are in a pellet form. I feed a pelleted horse feed and it hides in there better than a powder :lol: I don't know what it is about a powder but every one of my girls will stick their noses up.
I love Smartpak supplements and get them in the smartpak daily dose packs. Very convenient. They have a taste test program as well. They'll send a sample pack to see if your horse will eat it before you order a whole bucket.

 

[kchfuller]

My OTTB gets Cosaquin and flax seed

My QH gets Select 2 and flax seed

I used to use Smartpak Smarttendon but have found that Cosaquin works better.

I also love Smartpak Bugcheck for summer when the flies are around

As for hoof supplement- I would suggest cleaning the hooves daily and making sure that they are kept dry. My OTTB came with weak hooves and most supplements didn't do any better then me keeping them clean and dry.

 

[mysugarap]

thanks for the respones what do you guys think of ferriors forumla and ferriors magic?

 

[sillybunny11486]

A bit expensive but its vaccume packed. I opened it once for someone and it like exploded lol. It doubled in size. (Farriors formula i think.)

Go to smartpakequine.com check out the hoof sup. comparison charts and go from there.

 

[mysugarap]

A bit expensive but its vaccume packed. I opened it once for someone and it like exploded lol. It doubled in size. (Farriors formula i think.)

Go to smartpakequine.com check out the hoof sup. comparison charts and go from there.

thanks for the info

 

[MN Tigerstripes]

What are you trying to accomplish with the supplements? Joint protection or pain relief? Hoof strength, does your horse have weak hooves (not sure why else you'd supplement them)?

Those supplement comparison charts are only useful if you know which ingredients actually work in horses (many aren't proven). What I did when deciding on a supplement to help with my old mare's pain was look at all the ingredients and research what each of them did and if they had been shown to work in horses. I also checked possible side effects and drug interactions.

 

[dressagebelle]

For joints I have always used 4-flex, kept my dad's 35 year old horse sound, and he was definately sore without it as we found out when we accidentally ran out once, and then for my mare since she was in heavy training, and was jumping, I also used one of the liquid supplements like Fluid Flex, or Corti-Flex. I have never used a supplement for hoofs, so I can't offer any advice on that.

 

[sillybunny11486]

that was my next step to tell her haha. One thing I dont like in joint supplements is yucca. It might work short term but in the long run it usually dosent work. There are also alot of other active ingredients in there that arent even proven to work, nor do we know correct dosages. I keep my horse on just a glucosamine sulfate product for that reason. MSM has also been used as a joint supplement, because it contains sulfate, which is believed can help damaged joints. I dont use MSM alone though. For the hoof- look at biotin, lysine and methionine. they all play a role in hoof development. After you read up take notes and talk to your vet about it. You can also get a free smartpack consultation, which is worth a try.

keep it mind it could take as long as a year to see significant hoof improvement from a product.

 

[MN Tigerstripes]

Yucca has been shown to be poisonous to horses in some studies, so I'd stay away from it altogether. I know lots of people use it with no problems, but would you want to be the one who used it and found out your horse was extra sensitive?

MSM works and is a pain reliever also. One of the two types of glucosamine products is too large to be absorbed (don't have my notes so not sure which one it is).

Biotin is the best hoof supplement and the only thing repeatedly proven to work in scientific studies. But you have to give it in a high enough dose. Sillybunny is right about giving it time. It takes about a year for a horse's hoof to grow all the way down.

 

[sillybunny11486]

There is glucosamine sulfate, glucosamine HCI and glucosamine chondrotin I believe. I think its HCI. It could be HCL- or HCI i forget what it actually stands for.

Biotin is the best hoof supplement and the only thing repeatedly proven to work in scientific studies. But you have to give it in a high enough dose.

Agree. Most supplements provide a relatively low dose of it.