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The Slowwww Restart of a Middle-Aged Broodmare

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This seemed like a good way to document our progress. This is probably going to be a bit boring though. I am taking it super slow and evaluating and re-evaluating. I'm not a trainer, so I am not the most efficient at getting results. I am also not really in a hurry to get in the saddle, I want to be super confident in ALL of the groundwork.

Backstory:
I bought "Cider" at New Holland Auction in September of 22. She was advertised as a 12-13 year old grade mare that rides (no other history on her at that point). She was ridden bareback through the auction ring. She actually was a bit of an impulse buy on my part. I was there to buy a horse, she just wasn't on my list- I had somehow missed her at the tie racks. So I did not inspect her prior to her getting in the sale ring; this is a HUGE risk at an auction like New Holland. So why in the world did I bid on her?
1. I have a thing for palominos (nostalgia, my first horse was a pally quarter horse mare); i know, i know- not recommended.
2. her conformation looked decent
3. one of the sale ring riders was siting on her bareback in a huge pack of horses/riders waiting to get into the sale ring-she was standing so quietly.

I had bid on a few other horses prior to this, but they all went way higher than I was willing to pay for an auction horse without a vet check. Magically, I won the bid on the horse that i didn't even lay my eyes on before the auction. My first thought was "What have I just done?" My husband went to go pay the bill (he's a good man) and I went to look closer at my purchase. Her udder looked like she had weaned a baby not long ago. Her feet were a little long and she had a goopy eye. Other than that she looked ok. The eye turned out to be just a long hair causing irritation.

She was not impressed with me. She would not even look at me. "That's ok, we will work on that later". I untied her and walked her through the bowels of the sale barn to the check out/ loading door where my husband was going to bring the trailer around. She walked calmly next to me through the chaos of horses, people, and cattle. I was definitely MORE nervous than she was. We finally made it over to the check out and my husband gave the man our receipt. He checked her hip tags and told us we were good to go.

My hubby opened up the trailer door. Moment of truth here... I took a deep breath and we walked forward, as I stepped in, she stepped in. "Whew, ok, maybe I didn't make that big of a mistake?" She rode in the trailer calmly home the entire time. Unloading and turning out was uneventful as well.

Because she came from auction, I wanted to give any drugs that she may have had on board to wear off before I could really assess her personality. I was not planning to ride her for a while.

Over the next few days, I realized that she would not come near me. This gave me my first clue that we were probably going to start from square one. I don't think she was drugged at all. She was still just as quiet, just didn't want to be near me.

To Be continued...

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She looked absolutely exhausted. I decided to give her time to settle in with no expectations. I played hard to get with her for a while, basically "ignoring" her. Just going about my business (feeding, watering, chores, etc) without acknowledging her. She slowly started to come up to me.

In the meantime, I went in search of her history. She is branded with a JA inside of a circle. It took me a few days of googling. I couldn't find a public record of PA brands to search through. I eventually figured out that the JA stood for JANA Quarter Horses. I contacted them, and they confirmed that that was indeed their brand and she was one of their offspring. But they couldn't really give me much other info unless I knew her name/reg #. They have been breeding horses for 50+ years and have hundreds of foals. I don't quit that easily. I called AQHA to see how I could track down her actual info. The wonderful man on the phone spent an hour helping me figure out her name; he even had me send him a picture of her. Luckily she has unique face markings. I think he was excited as I was to actually figure it out. "Wow, this almost never happens!" he exclaimed.
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Wow, she's very pretty! Look at them dapples! Interesting about the brand, good sleuth work.
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Wow, good job researching her! I am glad you found out more about her!
I am excited to hear more!
It is a good idea to go slow. :) I am glad you are doing that!
I hope this mare works out well for you!!
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Can't wait to hear more! She is very pretty.
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Please keep us posted! She's stunning!
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How much did she end up costing?
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She's beautiful. I think it's good that you are taking things slowly. And although you definitely had not planned to bid on her, it sure might turn out to be a fantastic decision to have made.
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Ahh I need to know more! Beautiful horse!
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Yes, I hope she turns out well for you.
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I made a purchase similar to yours only mine came with a three month old filly. I had them shipped to me and when they arrived, we unloaded into the paddock and I just left them alone for a week to settle in. I already knew they had strangles prior to arrival, they were in QT for about a month prior then the filly ended up getting shipping fever and we got through... After having tried to work with the mare, I seriously wondered what I had gotten myself into and decided then, I would work on her terms. I started ground work with the mare about six months later... By this time, I had switched from a male to female farrier due to her reactivity to men. Since that time, she has come a LONG way. That was Sept 2021.

2022 Lots of ground work, she finally allowed me to sit the saddle! When cued, she backed, when cued a second time, she hunched. Ended on a good note and continued ground work and saddling then took the winter off. The filly on the other hand, no issues.. I can climb all over her all day long.

2023 After having given them the winter off, I started them both up again. Fillly, no issues and she will probably be under saddle while the mare will still be a bit behind. I'm hoping to get them both under saddle this year after having reached out to another trainer for some assistance... He came out to meet her and I was pleasantly surprised to find she actually seemed to like him, She didn't get wild eyed or move off!

I will be watching your progress and although I did train my first horse, I would never consider myself a trainer.. The one thing I have learned over the years.... Everyday we spend with our horses, we are training... Training them or ourselves without even realizing it... Dedicated time and consistency are key...


This seemed like a good way to document our progress. This is probably going to be a bit boring though. I am taking it super slow and evaluating and re-evaluating. I'm not a trainer, so I am not the most efficient at getting results. I am also not really in a hurry to get in the saddle, I want to be super confident in ALL of the groundwork.

To Be continued...
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Looking forward to seeing progress with this mare, and I LOVE that things are uneventful so far! Maybe it doesn't make the best story, but it is the best way to bring a horse around IMHO. No drama, just slowly getting to know each other. I hope it continues to be this smooth, but hopefully you also know someone you can enlist for help in case things start getting hairy, because at some point, it's almost inevitable that they will. She didn't go to auction for no reason. Being hard to catch wouldn't be enough - and that's pretty easily remedied I find.

My Kodak was hard to catch when I bought her, which is why they never took off her halter. They told me she was "aloof" and would never be the type of horse that greets you at the gate. Shows how well they knew her. I could never turn her into a reliable horse under saddle (she would spook explosively), but on the ground, she became like a puppy following me around everywhere. It took time, patience, and lots of ground work, then liberty work. She excelled at that. I would often do a bit of ground work before hopping in the saddle because it gave her confidence. Unfortunately, due to her spooking unpredictably and giving me a concussion, I eventually sold her. I heard from her new owner recently and she has gone back to being impossible to catch in the pasture. They haven't worked her for several months and she's reverted. :( I gave her a few tips, and told her that if she ever decides to sell her, I'd take her back just to prevent her from falling into the wrong hands. But a horse like this needs to be worked. Well, any horse really, though some do better than others if left to sit for months.

Good luck!
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How much did she end up costing?
$1700.

Decent looking teenaged registered quarter horses usually go for $5k+ around here. All the ones that I originally picked out at the sale were either no sales around $7500 or going for $10K+.
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After I figured out her name and reg #, I found the address of her owner on record. That owner was the one that bought her as a weanling. I wrote them a good old fashioned letter and sent it in the mail with a recent picture of my mare, not actually expecting a response. He happily called me shortly after receiving my letter. They had her for 16+ years of her 17 year life. She was broke out as a 2 year old to be his wife's main riding horse, but his wife ended up having an unrelated injury and was unable to ride. They already had a stud and some other brood mares and just decided to keep her as a broodmare. I of course asked why she was sold. He said "I am an owner-operator truck driver, I owed the fuel man a lot of money. So i was selling a trailer, and the buyer wouldn't give me enough to pay my fuel bill, so i threw in 2 mares and she was one of them. Not her fault. She has raised a lot of nice babies for us."

I obviously will take all of that with a grain of salt, but, he has no reason to lie to me. He was not the one that sent her to the sale. He signed the transfer form and the form to get a duplicate certificate and sent it back to me right away.
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After I figured out her name and reg #, I found the address of her owner on record. That owner was the one that bought her as a weanling. I wrote them a good old fashioned letter and sent it in the mail with a recent picture of my mare, not actually expecting a response. He happily called me shortly after receiving my letter. They had her for 16+ years of her 17 year life. She was broke out as a 2 year old to be his wife's main riding horse, but his wife ended up having an unrelated injury and was unable to ride. They already had a stud and some other brood mares and just decided to keep her as a broodmare. I of course asked why she was sold. He said "I am an owner-operator truck driver, I owed the fuel man a lot of money. So i was selling a trailer, and the buyer wouldn't give me enough to pay my fuel bill, so i threw in 2 mares and she was one of them. Not her fault. She has raised a lot of nice babies for us."

I obviously will take all of that with a grain of salt, but, he has no reason to lie to me. He was not the one that sent her to the sale. He signed the transfer form and the form to get a duplicate certificate and sent it back to me right away.
It is a very good sign that they kept her that long! It also means she wasn't passed around too much. I'd say you might have just gotten really lucky with this mare!
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following. I Love a good rags to riches story!
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If I get in over my head, I do have a few people I can consult, and trainers that I trust if I would need to send her somewhere.

I will say, things have not been totally uneventful. I am still struggling with her feet. She was not the most willing to pick her feet up. She picks them up now, but someone has to be holding her lead rope otherwise she doesn't want to hold them up for very long; as soon as she feels herself feeling a bit off balance she wants to walk off.
The walls were pretty long and the bars were extremely overgrown. Not sure that she had regular hoof care.

I have been taking her for lots of hand walks with a bit of grazing. She looks forward to those and will wait at the gait for me when it is that time of day. She has quite the busy mind and always likes to be "doing" something. Standing still/doing nothing on lead is not her favorite thing, We have been gradually working on standing still and doing nothing. I let her graze for a bit, and then she isn't allowed to graze; when she is calm far a time (steadily increasing) and not trying to walk off/ snatch grass, I make her do something, like back up, or yield a body part and then walk her back to the grass. We have also been working on her paying attention to me while I am leading, she wasn't bad before, but she was walking up past me to get to the next place. She likes to explore ( I hope to foster this) and is happy to walk away from the barn/yard to a new place.

Funny Anecdote: One day I looked outside and realized that Cider was in the goat pen, which is a dog kennel with a shelter in it. It does have access to the horse turnout, so she hadn't escaped. She just had somehow wedged herself in through their narrow door. Cider was so calmly stealing the goat's hay (they get the same as the horses). I was calculating in my mind, how to take the pen apart or somehow get her to wedge herself back out when she gracefully rocked back on her hocks and got herself turned around (narrow space!) and squeezed through the gate. 🤷‍♀️ I wonder how many times she has done that without me knowing?
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$1700.

Decent looking teenaged registered quarter horses usually go for $5k+ around here. All the ones that I originally picked out at the sale were either no sales around $7500 or going for $10K+.
Niiiiice!
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I have been continuing to take Cider for walks around the property almost daily (depending on weather/work).
I had Friday afternoon off, and the weather was warm and sunny. I took Cider out for one of our regular walks. She is getting better at just standing still on leadline. This was probably the first time that she has really relaxed and not thought about going elsewhere. Although as we were standing there, she was relaxing, I realized that I also have trouble just standing still on the leadline. So perhaps I have some work to do on myself too and just learn to be still.

I decided to let her graze and curry her. She is really shedding out now. I probably curried for 1/2 hour or better; Cider didn't seem to mind. She still has quite a bit of hair to come off.

On another note, as long as I hold the halter out properly for her, she will reliably come and shove her head into it. :)
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