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You will have to work with her to get her picking up her feet and letting you clean them before you have a farrier out. I always made sure my horses were good about picking up their feet and holding them up before i had the farrier work on them. First trim should make a big driffrence but will take time to fix all issues. Iv seen worse feet then hers.
 

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Looks like a ton of false sole and possible sulcus thrush depending on if that is really a crack in the heel bulb. If you can stick a hoof pick in that crack, you have a problem that needs to be corrected besides a good trim. To answer your original question, a good trimmer can make your horse instantly more comfortable depending on how far off the hooves are. Worst case scenario, it takes a few cycles and either some temporary shoes or hoof boots to get the job done.
 

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How well will she be trained by the time you get the farrier? How often are you going to get the farrier? Are you going to get a bodyworker(as well as chiro if necc.) to work with her? How are you going to manage her? How good's the farrier? How's her diet & nutrition? Are you going to be using boots, frog supports, riding much.... As you can see, there are a few too many factors to give you even a rough time frame sorry.
 

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Well, no telling how long, but one thing is for sure - the sooner you begin, the sooner her hooves will reach their full potential. No matter what, that will require that you start training her to be polite when you handle her feet. I wouldn't wait until she is trained to get a farrier out, though. I would start farrier shopping asap, tell them she may be difficult and why and ask if they can ace her (no point in a struggle, IMO).
 

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I wouldn't wait until she is trained to get a farrier out, though. I would start farrier shopping asap, tell them she may be difficult and why and ask if they can ace her (no point in a struggle, IMO).
I agree that I wouldn't *necessarily* wait to get a farrier, although there are many that I wouldn't let within cooee of a 'green' horse & would be very cautious about my choice because of their behaviour(the farrier, that is, not the horse) & there are many who aren't interested/capable of working with the great untrained. & then it also comes down to paying for a farrier when you aren't likely to be up to getting a good job done. Not at all against a bit of Ace or such if it will calm them down, but I wouldn't use it to force the issue(unless there were desperate probs needing urgent attention) - the farrier still needs to take their time & make it a positive experience.
 

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FIRST IT IS BECAUSE OF A fairrer, she wont pick her feet up the man that claimes to be the local fairrer is a cheep skate. The person i got the mare from told me how he did her feet then.. he used a rope choking her to the ground then while she was down tide her feet together and trimmed them. I didnt belive it untill i had him come out to do another mare, she did good untill he got to her last foot, she danced and just puled her foot away so instetly ge grabed a rope and tide her foot up witch made things alot worse. I have talked to a fairrer 80 miles away and will be hauling her there, she has seen the picks told what i just told you and is also going to make sure she is in alinement, so wish her luck..
 

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Oh so if your only choice of a GOOD farrier is 80 miles away, you probably want her well trained beforehand, because it's probably a bit much to have him give your horse some regular lessons ;-) So along with basic hoof-giving skills, given her experience, can you find a Man With Tools that has reasonable handling skills - or will at least follow your instruction - to help teach her that all Men With Tools aren't bad news?
 

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My Morgan had a bad trim from a horrid farrier (before I bought her from my boss). From then on you could not touch her rear feet and a man could not touch her legs period.

It took 3 months of working with her regularly before I could handle her rear feet and another month of working with the barn owner so he could. I found a good farrier willing to work with us. He came in one day and loved on her a whole lot and worked to be able to rub her legs.

When he came for the trim we had her mildly sedated so she was still aware of what was going on but not caring so much. She gave a couple small pulls of her feet and gave up and cooperated. It was a positive experience that she remembered so the 2nd trim was fine. Just a verbal reminder to behave.

After the 3rd trim her feet were back to normal and she'd learned plenty of manners in the process.
 

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Years ago a recently acquired mare was handy with her back feet which also happened to be in dire need of a trim. I'd worked with her almost daily for several weeks but as soon as I touched her hock she'd let fly. I tied a thick rope around her neck the put a rope around her ankle and ran it through the neck rope and brought the hoof forward. She had no choice but to stand still. This allowed me to pick out her hoof and break off some sharp pieces. Funny thing, I never had to tie her foot up again and she was good with the farrier.
 

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Called a scotch hobble. I use them to teach a horse how to have back feet handled also if they want to kick your lights out. This is a great video. I will hold till the horse stop struggling and relaxes and then release rinse and repeat and mix with basic handling and desensitizing lessons till you can safely handle the foot. It doesnt take long if you do it correctly.

 

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There's a lot you can be doing before you go to the farrier and lots of good advice already
Since she's the way she is because of too much rough handling a low dose of ACE when she gets there would be better than another battle that she'll just keep on associating with having her feet done - if you haven't sorted out her problems in time. Talk to your vet about dosage but don't travel her sedated as it might affect her ability to balance properly in the trailer
 

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My scotch hobble wasn't quite that fancy but it worked the same. As I mentioned that after this once she stood great for having her feet picked up and she even developed the good graces to lift her leg as a warning and set it down. If you kept doing what you were she'd kick. Usually it was someone too rough around the hocks with a stiff brush or curry. My good Alberta farrier had a few horses he had to lay down and tie up their legs in order to trim them. Once down the horse relaxes and accepts it's fate. A farrier can't afford to get beat up by a spoiled horse.
 
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