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Hello,
I'm looking for a jumper horse for my 16-year-old daughter, who has been riding for 11 years with a trainer. We found one thats a good fit temperament wise(the horse quickly latched onto her mores than the trainer its been with for a year, and immediately began following her like a puppy-dog), however the fellow has some issues. He is a 5yr old holsteiner gelding, broken at 3, and sent to a trainers a month later. The horse has a full brother who was sent to the same trainer at the same time (he is a year or so older). The older brother was completely ruined &*soured at this trainer, and the horse i am interested in was 'salvageable' as the (new) trainer has put it. The horse does not go on the bit at the moment, and his training is more similar to that of a barely-backed 3yr old. In addition to this, as a foal, the horse had Check-Ligament surgery (which to my understanding should not be a very big issue?) However it still provides a risk. He is underweight and under muscled as well, and there is a possibility he has an ulcer. To top it off, the owner and current trainer have not been honest or upfront with us, not disclosing the surgery at all, and not providing any info regarding the horses weight condition. This being said, the temperment of the horse is wonderful: he's willing, level-headed, a quick learner, responsive, and all around a good seeming fellow. His gaits and jumping technique & ability are wonderful, and even my daughter (whom has back and arm issues and finds many horses very uncomfortable.) says he is very comfortable to ride. The owner has him priced at $20,000...In my opinion this is a lot of money for a horse with several ( unsolved) issues e.g. weight, lack of training, bad starting, and for a horse whom has undergone surgery. I was hoping somebody could provide insight ( or just an educated opinion) on whether I should go ahead and make an offer, and if so, at what price you might recommend?

Thank you,
TheHorseGeek
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Absolutely pass.

For $20,000 you could buy a cheap horse that just needs training, without soundness issues.

My friend and I were just discussing the differences between a $500 horse and $10,000 horse. She takes in cheapo horses all the time, trains them and sells. Mostly as a hobby.

I had another friend buy a $10,000 horse who she was terrified of as he reared near traffic. That friend would have been better off spending $1000 or $2000 and getting something dead broke and calm.

I would focus on a horse with a passing vet check and spend the extra money on a full set of x rays, and drug testing. I would rather get something young that has only been lightly started, and is not being jumped too young.

I remember seeing a seven year old holsteiner who was already crippled and being sold as a broodmare only. She was jumped cross country and messed up from being jumped too hard too young.

If you are looking for a warmblood I would probably purchase a younger animal like 1-3yr old, and invest in training. There are several issues with buying older horses, as they could be injected with adequan or other arthritis drugs and you would not know until the horse goes lame months later. Even young horses are sometimes injected in their joints.

Finding a sound and sane horse is not always easy! Make sure to invest in a full set of x rays and flexion testing! The racehorse trainers often have the heart checked as well.

I would personally look for a horse out of a stallion who was shown even into his teens. A horse that is retired early may have had early onset arthritis. Arthritis is partially genetic and you want to avoid a horse who is not going to stay sound. Definitely try to see the side and dam or the horse you are buying, if you can. If they are sound, that is a good sign.

Proper conformation is important too, but I've seen horses with horrible conformation stay sound, yet the nice looking animal is crippled. Definitely a genetic component to joint health.
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