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hi,
so lately ive been very interested in eventing. and i honestly NEED to get out of the discipline i currently train (western and english pleasure).
well anyways i have a upcoming 4 year old paint, who is not really trained in a discipline yet! thank god. all he really knows is his gaits and to stop. we kinda have been just fooling around. but its time to get serious. he needs a job.
he likes to jump:) is pretty quiet. on trails, although he does get spunky and spirited. he likes to somtimes just go fast.in the arena hes very quiet and obident.
so im thinking of getting a dressage trainer to come to my barn and teach us. i wont be getting a jumping trainer until i can get a job when i turn 15. in a few months.
until then i can work on him with jumping in the arena.

but what is a schedule to get him fit enought to compete?
like on what days do i do what? and how long. etc.etc.etc.
and what is the lowest level and how big are the fences?
 

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Well, if he is up and coming to the age of 4, I would really be focusing on dressage right now, and lots of getting out of the arena - exposing him to trails and water and all that fun stuff.

I wouldn't even be worrying about compeating him nor jumping at this point.
 

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Agreed with Kim. I would work on getting solid dressage down. Then worry about the jumping when he's five or so. Jumping is dressage with speed bumps. But I would suggest finding an eventing barn, and making some friends. Friends with trainers, other riders, owners, everyone. Everyone in our sport is really helpful, and most of the time, pretty darned nice. :) We always like to bring others in.... muahaha. Anyways, also, go to a couple of events in your area. Try to learn about the sport, observe the way riders do things. I have learned so much by just sitting and watching.
 

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Also, if you have access to Fox Hunting, I highly recommend you get involved - whether it be joining or capping. Regardless, Fox Hunting is very benefitial for both horse and rider in the long run :)
 

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I agree with all of the above! Start with DRESSAGE! but if you can find an event barn, that would be even better. Start getting him used to everything. Take him to a XC course and just canter him around, take him through the water. I have an OTTB that I got 2 years ago as a 3 year old. I didn't start jumping til he was 4 and didnt do anything over 2ft til he was 4 and a half to 5. But i wish i had taken him more places when he was younger. He is great and honest jumper, but it's taken me a while to get him used to to wide, open XC. I think if i'd introduced him to it earlier he'd be a little better right now.
As for the levels, at recognized USEA events the lowest level is beginner novice which is 2'7". But lots of places have schooling shows and the levels vary per show. Around here we have whats called Tadpole. It either all cross rails with little baby verticals or it can be 2'3". It really depends on the place. When you do get ready to start eventing, go watch some schooling shows and see what level you think he could do.
Noticed you live in illinios which is area 4. Take a look at this site USEA Area IV There's a list of all the trainers, XC schooling places, schooling shows, and recognized shows, and clinics in the area.

Fox hunting as MIeventer said CAN be good, but it can also be very bad. If you do go foxhunting, especially with a young horse you really need to look into the place more. We have two hunts around here. One is a drag hunt and is done on very nice, open trails with great footing. The other is a real hunt and they go FAST and they go through creeks, rocks, bad terrain, whatever they have to do. I went to the second one once and it would NOT be a good place for a green horse, even hilltopping, which i did, was a little ridiculous.
 

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I agree with all of the above! Start with DRESSAGE! but if you can find an event barn, that would be even better. Start getting him used to everything. Take him to a XC course and just canter him around, take him through the water. I have an OTTB that I got 2 years ago as a 3 year old. I didn't start jumping til he was 4 and didnt do anything over 2ft til he was 4 and a half to 5. But i wish i had taken him more places when he was younger. He is great and honest jumper, but it's taken me a while to get him used to to wide, open XC. I think if i'd introduced him to it earlier he'd be a little better right now.
As for the levels, at recognized USEA events the lowest level is beginner novice which is 2'7". But lots of places have schooling shows and the levels vary per show. Around here we have whats called Tadpole. It either all cross rails with little baby verticals or it can be 2'3". It really depends on the place. When you do get ready to start eventing, go watch some schooling shows and see what level you think he could do.
Noticed you live in illinios which is area 4. Take a look at this site USEA Area IV There's a list of all the trainers, XC schooling places, schooling shows, and recognized shows, and clinics in the area.

Fox hunting as MIeventer said CAN be good, but it can also be very bad. If you do go foxhunting, especially with a young horse you really need to look into the place more. We have two hunts around here. One is a drag hunt and is done on very nice, open trails with great footing. The other is a real hunt and they go FAST and they go through creeks, rocks, bad terrain, whatever they have to do. I went to the second one once and it would NOT be a good place for a green horse, even hilltopping, which i did, was a little ridiculous.


I'm fortunate to have my aunt live by one of the qualifying xc courses in Wayne il . I have trail ridden over there to let him see the huge colorful jumps. He did really good actually. I also try to trail ride alot to get him out of the arena.

As for fox hunting. Mines really iffy. They do hard core fox hunting. I wouldn't be comfortable. But my horse irks really calm and levelheaded for his age. He has taken well to everything I have done with him.
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^ is it Lamplight Equestrian Center? Where Wayne Du Page and Maui Jim HT's are run? I've heard it's super nice.

good luck with the training! You'll catch the eventing bug in no time ;)
 

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AEC's were at lamplight until this year too... suposed to be an AMZING facility!
 

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AEC's were at lamplight until this year too... suposed to be an AMZING facility!
yupp its lamplight. well lamplight uses it. i think its called wayne dupage competition field.
and its about a half an hour trail ride away.
its HUGGEEE and really nice. some of the jumps there are crazzy tho. to the point where im like danggggg how the heck does a horse get himself over that????
 

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wayne is awesome ! i love going there !

which hunt are you with ? i never take young horses hunting unless that is going to be their main job ! wait til your horse knows his job well & then you can hunt =]
 

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Hunting is a great way to expose a young horse to unknown cercumstances, to unknown terrain and to help them grow to be bold and confident, so that when you start to event - your horse has already grown and matured to beable to face the obsticles being asked apon them.

Back in the day, many eventing mounts were fox hunters, and they did exceptionally well, because they were already exposed to the scenario.

Take it slow, and steady, you don't have to jump - but exposing your young horses to situations such as that, is a great exposure. My Coach has a 5/6 year old OTTB mare, and she fox hunts on her already *in the hilltopper group* and she does very well. My friend has a 4/5 year old OTTB mare and she fox hunts in the Hilltopper group - there are quite a few eventers who start fox hunting on their greenies first, to expose them to the elements to help them grow and mature and become bold and confident.

If you can get access to a nice group, definately take that opportunity. Doesn't mean you have to jump, but exposing them to situations such as that, is a great way to help mold them into the eventing mount you want.
 

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I think hunting would be great for both horse and rider eventer! I'd low to go hunting some day!
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This makes me wish there were hunts in Australia...
I have no idea if there really is or not, but if there is they're super good at hiding from me...
 

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i agree!!!! :D
fox hunting sounds great, ozzie would love it, marco would too.

in australia you can't compete a horse at the age of 4 years old...
my OTTB is 5 rising 6 and i've taken him to a training day to test him on his temprament and boldness, both where suited to eventing.
to prepare my event horse for the year i do alot on small training days, shows, gymkhannas, adult riding club, lessons, beach riding. the old place i kept my horse there was a deep sand area so i use to do alot on canter work in that. there's no et scedual on week to week training, it takes time to build up the fitness and muscles. i agree with dressage now umping later. the fitness ur horse will get from this will help. do get ur horse "too fit" for your grade as you might end up with a horse that's too hard to handle when excited. exose your horse to alot of different things,you will need it. i went to a horse trials event where the horse were afraid of the decorations and i had to pony them through bahahahahahaha
 

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Hunting is a great way to expose a young horse to unknown cercumstances, to unknown terrain and to help them grow to be bold and confident, so that when you start to event - your horse has already grown and matured to beable to face the obsticles being asked apon them.

Back in the day, many eventing mounts were fox hunters, and they did exceptionally well, because they were already exposed to the scenario.

Take it slow, and steady, you don't have to jump - but exposing your young horses to situations such as that, is a great exposure. My Coach has a 5/6 year old OTTB mare, and she fox hunts on her already *in the hilltopper group* and she does very well. My friend has a 4/5 year old OTTB mare and she fox hunts in the Hilltopper group - there are quite a few eventers who start fox hunting on their greenies first, to expose them to the elements to help them grow and mature and become bold and confident.

If you can get access to a nice group, definately take that opportunity. Doesn't mean you have to jump, but exposing them to situations such as that, is a great way to help mold them into the eventing mount you want.
hilltopping is a lot different from riding in the field !!!
 

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i agree!!!! :grin:
fox hunting sounds great, ozzie would love it, marco would too.
It is a fabulous way to get into the groove of things! I remember reading an article written by Jim Wofford a while back, about how Eventers need to go back to their roots, and to branch off into different disciplines aside from Eventing and Fox Hunting was one of his suggestions.

I mean, if the majority of Eventers back in the 40's, 50's, 60's, 70's were Fox Hunters, then I think we should go back to our roots as Jim Wofford says.

Too bad you guys don't have this sport in Australia! Maybe this is a great time to start!!

A group of us just recently "Capped" with our local hunt for the 2nd time, and this time around quite a few Eventers in the area were there to share the hunt with all. It was a very large turn out, and it was alot of fun!

We did the Hilltopper group, but boy we rode hard! The Head Huntsman of that group rode accordingly to the level of the riders, and since majority of us were Eventers, we had a blast!

I highly recommend it to anyone with seasoned horses, or green young horses. It is a wonderful way to get your toes wet for the sport of Eventing!
 

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What is the difference with hilltopping and just going with the hunt? Explinating - nessecary. :)
 

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hilltoppers follow the hunt on horses or in cars & usually just walk around to good vantage points for watching the hunt or where they think the hunt is going to go. if that makes any sense at all....

first field follows behind the huntsman & gallops & jumps & whatever they have to do to keep up. second field mostly walks & trots behind first field & doest jump. at the hunt i go with they sometimes canter if the field is small depending on who is riding !
 

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The Hilltoppers in the Hunt that is in my area - never drive around in cars.

They are all on horseback. Nothing more, nothing less.

There is 1 Huntsman who leads the Hilltopper group and they pretty much ride in accordance to the lowest level of the member in that group. If the lowest leveled rider only walks, then so be it. If the lowest leveled rider is experienced, then so be it - they ride in accordance to the members comfort level who are involved.

We are always out for 2 hours, we ride with no hounds, but meet up with the main group once during the break session where we all stand around and chit chat while our horses drink and cool off, and the hounds cool off and drink - and so do all the members *hint hint*

They gallop, they trot, they walk, they jump, they ride hard, they ride easy. Again, depends on those who are riding with the Hilltoppers.

The Hilltoppers ride in large open fields, gallop over fences, they ride in large wooded area's and do just as much as the main group do, just with no hounds.

The Main Group, are for the very experienced only. I usually ride with the main group, but lately only been riding in the Hilltoppers because of friends who are with me. Not fair for me to ditch them to ride with the main group.

They ride hard, and very hard. This is the most chaotic group as well, due to the Hounds being with this group, the Head Huntsman is as well. He controls the hounds, while there are 2 whips on each side and a tail runner who stays farthest back.

All 4 control the hounds. The Head Huntsman has a special bond with the hounds, and they hounds are most alert to him and his horn and his commands, where the other 3 are just there to make sure none stray off, get lost or left behind *they are sorta like cowboys keeping the herd of cattle in a group*

They go wherever the hounds go, if they catch a scent, off they go. They follow. Regardless of what obsticle is in their way *well, within limits* they ride over it, to stay with the hounds.

The main group is definately not a group to ride in if you are new to hunting, or if your horse is new to hunting.

Hilltoppers is quite boring for me, it is like just going on a big trail ride with jumps involved.

The Main Group, is where you get a real historical taste to the traditions of Fox Hunting.
 

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^^ haha dont mean to offend, but thats weird !! thats so different from what we do !

we have 1 huntsman, 3 field masters & a few whips. we are usually out for about 3 - 5 hrs

we also have a few people that follow or find spots to watch in cars due to health issues.
 
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