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Hi Everyone,

I am going to be breeding my purebred Arabian Mare to a Trakehner stallion by the name of Hadrian.
I have attached some pictures. What do you think?
The stallion is 17'2, the mare is 15'2.
Thanks!! Sarah:)
 

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I know nothing about breeding...other than what I've read on here and the little bit of research that I've done myself within the past couple of weeks, but that is a beautiful stallion.
 

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ooooh...i don't even like chestnuts,but he really caught my eye. very flashy! don't know about trakehner bloodlines at all so i have no idea on the cross. just wanted to say he is perty :)
 

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I am going to be breeding my purebred Arabian Mare to a Trakehner stallion by the name of Hadrian.
What do you think?
What do I think about what? The compatibility of mare and stallion from a conformational standpoint? The idea of crossbreeding? The idea of breeding at all in this economy and current state of affairs? The idea of the possible outcome of the pairing in terms of athleticism, discipline, color?

You've already decided to do it, so the opinions of others is irrelevant. So, I'm really not getting the point of your post at all.
 

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What do I think about what? The compatibility of mare and stallion from a conformational standpoint? The idea of crossbreeding? The idea of breeding at all in this economy and current state of affairs? The idea of the possible outcome of the pairing in terms of athleticism, discipline, color?

You've already decided to do it, so the opinions of others is irrelevant. So, I'm really not getting the point of your post at all.
I know how you feel, and i agree. But OUCH.
I'm sorry and I dont want to stir the pot, but I also believe if you have nothing nice to say, dont say anything at all. What truly WAS you poin of even replying?

By the way OP, the Stallion is Gorgeous.
 

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Ouch.
Just wanted a conformational opinion...I don't think there is any harm in me asking.
I don't understand why you are so harsh. Are you Mercedes from The Mane Street? If it is you, I have heard terrific things about you and your knowledge of horses - I would expect that you would want to share your insight, not be rude to me.

If my initial post was not clear, I apologize, yes, I would like a conformational opinion.
 

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Sorry..I don't have any comments regarding conformation or about the trakehnar breed, but I did want to say while I'm not a big fans on sorrels/chesnuts, he's gorgeous! Congrats.
 

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I should also say this horse is just for me - an amateur dressage horse - I have no plans on breding again or selling the baby.

Sarah
 

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What do I think about what? The compatibility of mare and stallion from a conformational standpoint? The idea of crossbreeding? The idea of breeding at all in this economy and current state of affairs? The idea of the possible outcome of the pairing in terms of athleticism, discipline, color?

You've already decided to do it, so the opinions of others is irrelevant. So, I'm really not getting the point of your post at all.

I think that that was uncalled for :-| Yes, she could have made her post more clear from the beginning but no need to bash her so harshly right off the bat.

BTW, OP, the stallion and mare are both good looking :wink:
 

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I know how you feel, and i agree. But OUCH.
I'm sorry and I dont want to stir the pot, but I also believe if you have nothing nice to say, dont say anything at all. What truly WAS you poin of even replying?
Nothing I said was 'not nice'.

I asked relevant questions of the OP so as to,

1) get a better understanding of what exact opinion was being asked for,

2) to get a better understanding of the motivations of the OP, since it seemed contradictory and illogical to ask opinions about a decision that's already been made.

Now, what was your point of posting a completely irrelevant, and off topic post? For someone claiming to not what to stir the pot, you've sure dipped your spoon in, eh?
 

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I think that that was uncalled for :-| Yes, she could have made her post more clear from the beginning but no need to bash her so harshly right off the bat.
Where was the bash?

Asking pointed, straight forward questions for clarity is defined as a bash? Since when?

Pointing out to the OP that opinions of others are irrelevant if one has already made their decision is a bash? Again, since when?
 

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Okay, thank you everyone for your posts. I don't want this thread to go any further as it was not inteded to start any negativity.

Thanks everyone!
Have a great day and enjoy your horses!!!!!
 

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The picture of your mare is really too small to say what her conformation is.

As an aside, I don't see that Mercedes did or said anything out of line. She was stating her reply and it was the exact thing I was thinking - what was the point of the question. The OP has since stated it was conformational but the pictures are not adequate enough to make an assessment.
 

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Ouch.
Just wanted a conformational opinion...I don't think there is any harm in me asking.
I don't understand why you are so harsh. Are you Mercedes from The Mane Street? If it is you, I have heard terrific things about you and your knowledge of horses - I would expect that you would want to share your insight, not be rude to me.

If my initial post was not clear, I apologize, yes, I would like a conformational opinion.
For a conformational opinion we require an equally ideal confo photo of the mare as the one presented of the stallion.

Next, we'd need to know your desired outcome for the offspring. Discipline, level of achievement, training resources, and so on.

I am, one and the same. I'll happily share, as anyone who knows me will attest to. At the same time, I require people to be specific and honest about their motivations and expectations so that I can give the best possible answer for them.

I wasn't being rude. It's called being forthright. I have no inclination to play word games, stroke anyone's ego, guess, or waste time and energy via any other means. If you want the answer, ask, but don't expect it to come wrapped in anything but the truth. I can't guarantee that you'll like the answer, but since you're receiving free knowledge acquired over decades, you don't get to decide how it's delivered. When you're paying me, then you have a say.
 

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I understand the mare photo is poor - my apologies. If you can take a look at the Stallion, it would be appreciated. I plan to use the offspring for amateur dressage, as to achieve what level, I am not sure. I am a recreational rider - I do not compete at high levels. I currently work with a level II Dressage coach (Canada).
 

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If you have pictures of the mare, that would help get the answers you are looking for. The stallion looks pretty good, but that wouldn't mean squat if the mare's conformation is bad (not saying it is, can't tell). Pictures without a rider on her back are the best.
 

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I understand the mare photo is poor - my apologies. If you can take a look at the Stallion, it would be appreciated. I plan to use the offspring for amateur dressage, as to achieve what level, I am not sure. I am a recreational rider - I do not compete at high levels. I currently work with a level II Dressage coach (Canada).
There is not much not to like about this stallion for a dressage prospect offspring, and the potential for medium and above when paired with the right mare should be very favorable.

He has great substance (based on that alone I would not have guessed him to be a Trak), the low knee and long forearm needed for the right kind of movement and ability for lateral movement.

The angle of the photo is a little off so determining exact shoulder slope and angle is difficult, but they appear to be more than adequate with the shoulder laidback and the angle open.

Excellent length to the humerus bone. The pasterns are medium in length, as is the back.

The hip is long, the loin coupling strong and deep. The hock and stifle are also well-placed.

My biggest knock on him, for you, is his size. 17.2h is a lot of horse for a recreational rider to ride. The amount of power and movement compared to an Arabian is, frankly, not comparable. Controlling the haunches, keeping the horse straight, and all that goes with it, is a daunting task.

It's quite possible you won't get such a large horse with an Arabian mare...but here comes my next concern...I never like to breed a bigger stallion onto a smaller mare. Nature is clever, and usually finds a way to adapt, but not always. The risks are increased for such a pairing.

I believe you'd be better served breeding your mare to another Arabian...or, if you're desire is to improve your chances for getting a dressage suitable offspring, then breed her to a Lippizanner stallion...particularly of the Siglavy line, though any line has a high chance of success.
 

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Well I have attached the only picture I have at my disposal right now. I don't believe I actually have a picture of her standing square and I do understand, now, that I will need this to get an accurate assessment. So, I will get one!!!
Although it started off rockey, I have learned a few things here today! Thanks everyone!
 

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Mercedes thank you so much. You come with a great reputation of being a knowledgeable horse person and your opinion is very appreciated.
Sarah
 
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