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Arie is still doing really well since his injury:) We are getting a lot of stall rehabilitation foundation work done, still some issues, but I have to remember that he's gone from being out 24/7 to now being cooped up 24/7, and he can be one cranky horse!:lol: He's had the cast on for a little over 2 weeks and he seems to be walking on his foot better and better all the time:D I hardly ever see him take a gimpy step, it does bother him for a minute when he gets up from laying down, but then he's fine. I'm also glad that he isn't chewing at it, which I'm surprised he isn't because he's such a mouthy horse by nature.

I spent the entire day with him today. Cleaned his stall, pulled his mane (it was really long!), banged his tail, gave him a full out groom and was planning on clipping him but my clipper didn't have any juice left:-( So he still has his beard and fuzzy ears:lol: I enjoyed it and so did he. We did carrot stretches and worked on backing by the tail around corners which was a lot of fun. He caught on quick! I can tell he's dying to play and learn again.

I can't wait to start working with him again, I'm going through some serious withdrawl! I know I'm going to be nervous the first time he goes past a walk, but the vet isn't concerned so I shouldn't be either. I think he'll be really ready to play and stretch his legs. I'll need to have my video camera ready!:)
 

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Having respect for him and his opinions is VITAL to having success with him. That's why no one could do anything with him in his "past" life....they didn't respect him. If you don't respect Arie, he will MAKE you respect him! lol. And it's not pretty, as the vet found out ;)
 

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Have you ever thought about what it does to the horse if you clip his whiskers ?? Would you cut off a cat's whiskers ?? He uses those to know where the edge of his water trough is, where the edge of the fence is, where any barb wire is, etc. If he does not have those, he may just bash is chin into the trough or onto the barb wire. Also, how do bugs stay out of there ears if there is no hair there to keep them out ?? Having no hair in their ears can also cause them to be very sensitive.

Just something to think about. Horses are so beautiful naturally, why do we have to clip all there hair off, so we think they are more beautiful ??
 

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Have you ever thought about what it does to the horse if you clip his whiskers ?? Would you cut off a cat's whiskers ??
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I agree. I will not cut the hair on my horses muzzle, his ears and his fetlocks. I feel the hair has a place in his welfare. I do trim a bridle path.
 

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It's amazing how such immature people can make a positive thread so negative. I never said I was going to clip his whiskers, I actually DON'T do that. I clip the hair under his jaw, the stuff that gets shaggy. I also only clip the hair that sticks out of his ears. I'm smart enough to know what horses use their hair and whiskers for ;)

And HAF, if you want to be like that, do it somewhere else. I don't have time for that kind of thing ;)
 

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Have you ever thought about what it does to the horse if you clip his whiskers ?? Would you cut off a cat's whiskers ?? He uses those to know where the edge of his water trough is, where the edge of the fence is, where any barb wire is, etc. If he does not have those, he may just bash is chin into the trough or onto the barb wire.

Horses have no problem when you trim thier wiskers off. I used to show when I was younger and I never liked trimming the ears but I never noticed one bit of difference when I trimmed the muzzle. Lets not exagerate things just for the sake of arguement. Unless Spirithorse is trimming the whiskers on your horse then why do you care?

Spirithorse: Please don't trim the whiskers on Alberta Girls horse. She is afraid it will bump it's chin or get cut on barbwire.
 

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I'm really glad that Arie is doing better. The stronger bond that you've formed with him during this time is sure to help in his training. Good Luck!!!!
 

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LOL kevinshorses. I used to clip whiskers a long time ago and my horses never hurt themselves because of it :)

Thank you charlicata :) The relationship he and I have has absolutely helped. If this had happened when I first got him, there is no way it would have gone smoothly. Disaster would be an appropriate word to use!
 

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Spirithorse: Please don't trim the whiskers on Alberta Girls horse. She is afraid it will bump it's chin or get cut on barbwire.
Kevin put me down also for not trimming the whiskers. I feel in the dark stall they are feelers that tell the horse when his head is about to meet a solid object, when his muzzle is about to reach the bottom of the grain bin, when his grazing muzzle encounters the ground.
How can you tell what your horse feels when he lowers his head???
 

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Glad to hear that Arie's doing well since his injury, Spirithorse! :D

As far as the clipping goes, I only clip the bridle path if I'm not showing, sometimes excess feathering if it starts to collect snowballs or mud too badly. If I do show (something that happens less and less these days... I think I'm becoming disillusioned with competition, lol) I do a full trim: Feathers, beard, whiskers, and the fold-and-clip-what-sticks-out method on ears. I don't notice anything different about the behavior of my guy whisker-less vs. whisker-bearing, but as a matter of general grooming I do let them grow. My sister's QH, on the other hand... well, his whole head could be one giant whisker and he'd probably still be a klutz with his head and face.
 

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Boy you people are really defensive. I did not come across as pointing a finger, just opening a discussion.

Think about it. We all know that whiskers on animals are there for "feelers". Mother nature has put them there and they have been there for thousands of years. It is only the "show" world that made it be that they need to be trimmed. If you had never, ever seen or been to a show I am sure that trimming off your animals whiskers would never even cross your mind. As a matter of fact, it seems cruel to take that away from them and they have no say if we cut them off or not. I also found the following info.

"Whiskers are a very important sensory device for the horse especially in discriminating feed. The softer blades of grass versus the coarser textures that do not bend as easily. This apparently gives the horse information as to what is potentially toxic versus non-toxic, sweet versus bitter etc. In addition the whiskers too provided 'line-of-sight' information for distance and angle assessment."

Again not pointing fingers at anyone however I think it is a point worthy of some thought. This is a natural forum right ?? Does not get much more natural than that.
 

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Boy you people are really defensive. I did not come across as pointing a finger, just opening a discussion.

I don't see anything that terribly defensive, just discussion and statement/support of differing opinions on the topic of whiskers and their maintenance...

Think about it. We all know that whiskers on animals are there for "feelers". Mother nature has put them there and they have been there for thousands of years. It is only the "show" world that made it be that they need to be trimmed.

Agreed. If the show world didn't require it I probably wouldn't do it myself. I showed 4-H Grooming and Showmanship for years with some success, and I got flak for not pulling my gaited/morgan cross' mane QH style, let alone whiskers. IMHO, if the horse is clean and in good condition, uber-correctness of clip/trim shouldn't mark a competitor down, esp. in a situation like 4-H where the aim is to introduce horsemanship, competition, and sportsmanship. I really can't speak for higher level comp., I never really wanted to go there and deal with all of the fuss and politics of it.

If you had never, ever seen or been to a show I am sure that trimming off your animals whiskers would never even cross your mind. As a matter of fact, it seems cruel to take that away from them and they have no say if we cut them off or not.

I'm not justifying this, either, but what about removing the dew claws of dogs, or declawing a cat (I lied, I have had this done to my rescue housecat, for the sake of the carpet, sofa, tv stand, wallpaper, dressers, cabinets...)? Whiskers are hair, and hair grows back. Several bad clip jobs and haircuts attest to that. I have a bigger problem with needless declawing, or tail/ear docking than I do with clipping hairs that will be back in 3 weeks.

I also found the following info.

"Whiskers are a very important sensory device for the horse especially in discriminating feed. The softer blades of grass versus the coarser textures that do not bend as easily. This apparently gives the horse information as to what is potentially toxic versus non-toxic, sweet versus bitter etc. In addition the whiskers too provided 'line-of-sight' information for distance and angle assessment."

^Interesting stuff. Sheer curiosity, where did you find that info? I wouldn't mind reading more.

As far as a practical reason for whisker removal, in my area of perpetual winter, my guys routinely accumulate little ice/snowballs on their whiskers, between grazing and condensation freezing there in sub-freezing temps. Occasionally a trim is merited there... I feel so bad for them out there scratching their muzzles on their knees because the ice chunks are pulling the whiskers.

Again not pointing fingers at anyone however I think it is a point worthy of some thought. This is a natural forum right ?? Does not get much more natural than that.

Agreed 100% and Amen!
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I never cut any of my face or nose hair for the same reason as it helps me FEEL my food better when I eat.

 

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^Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha!! :lol::lol::lol:
I nearly fell out of my chair reading that!! :lol:
 

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I never cut any of my face or nose hair for the same reason as it helps me FEEL my food better when I eat.

Not to mention saving a little food for later.
 
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