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So todays the day the vet comes for a visit to check my poor girly out. :?

Shes still favoring the leg a bit so I can have her look at that then we're going to talk about having the physical done and possible blood work.

So look out for an update for those who are interested. :D
 

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HAF, good luck with her! Just an FYI, I just submitted a paper on the tumors she is possibly suspecting which was a case report on a mare who's endocrine blood profile was completely normal. Make sure she palpates and ultrasounds (if possible) both ovaries to look for abnormalities, as relying on the "gold standard tests" for that disease is starting to prove less reliable as we learn more about them. Definitely keep us posted, keeping fingers crossed that the prognosis on the leg is good too!!
 

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So im back from the barn

Turns out my horse has Lime disease for one. Which is why shes haveing a lot of behavioral changes in the winter because it is active right now. :( Shes being put on 6 week treatment for it.

About the lameness- this is what the paper says:
Chance is 1/5 grade off on the LF when circling to the left. When circling to the right, Chance appears to want to transition to the canter [this was my fault] Palpation of the LF is WNL [What does this mean?!] No back pain elicted on palation, just mild wither pain, and associated Nuchal ligament discomfort.

PD block ~ 98% improvement on circle left.
Lyme snap test - positive

O elected to treat Lyme diease first, and re evaluate after treatment..

She said if its the coffin bone.. like if its split or chipped chance would be put on 4 months rest or so.. then take xrays before shes put back into work to make 100% sure that its healed...

THIS IS HORRIBLE!!!!!!!
Vet bill was $611
One is because the lyme treatment was $410
 

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WNL is within normal limits I think.
 

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I know it's hard to think about now, but really this isn't too bad! sounds like lyme is completely treatable and the lameness is not as bad as it could be...

poor chance :(
 

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Thanks eventerdrew.

Sadly theres no 100% positive that it will clear it up. It may control or lessen it.. but im praying it will clear it up! She said since shes young theres a good chance that she will be cured by the end of the treatment so .. these are gonna be some long 6 weeks.

Since I cant work her for over a month .. shes gonna be SOOO hyped up the day I put her back into work. Most of my work under saddle is gonna be undone as well.

BUT at least I CAN say that this wasnt a training issue! Which actually my training came through for me.. they wanted to twitch her for the block because they put the needle in the nerve which most horses cant stand but I asked them not to ..to trust that she wont do anything.. and I was right.. she never moved :) I was very proud of my girl. They were pretty shocked.
 

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After my mare's stifle injury, my vet told me to put her on a small amount of Ace every time I rode (it was 2 times a week to start out with) for the first couple of weeks so that no one got hurt. She's quite the spirited little ****** and she likes to have fun :D But it wasn't ideal when we were rehabbing her from an injury. Ace did wonders. Used it for a week and didn't need it anymore.
 

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It's a sedative. Give's 'em a little downer before you get on. A lot of vets will recommend it for a hot horse after a long time off.
 

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Oh I'm so sorry Michele! I know it may be hard to right now (I've been there with Arie!) but try to look at the good things....you know what it is and you are starting treatment, this is a good thing! She has age on her side and she's healthy otherwise. From what I have gone through with Arie and his fractured coffin bone, I can tell you that I highly doubt her coffin bone is broken/fractured because she would be showing extreme lameness and in a ton of pain...my vet and I discussed this at great length!

Would Lyme cause a horse's coffin bone to rotate? Would it cause lameness at all? I'm moderately familiar with Lyme, but not totally....

Take comfort in the fact that it wasn't a training issue after all :) You and Chance will get through this.....if I can have my horse on stall rest for 7, almost 8 weeks, you can make it! lol. Stay positive, especially for Chance's sake (she's sensitive to your emotions). You know I'm here if you need me *hugs*
 

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Thanks Rebecca :)

Im trying to keep myself looking at the positive, but those negitives keep creeping up on me.

I know the other horse that has Lyme gets very unsound due to his lyme diease they caught it to late to really cure it. Luckly with Chance being young.. she should be able to pull through the treatment fine. But the vet did say some horses do get worse before they get better while on the treatment so that made me a bit nervous but I guess Ill see.

While shes on this treatment im basically down to UDT, grooming..... and hand walks maybe on the trails or something. Even then im unsure because of if she spooks she could move wrong.

But im glad I set my ground with no twitch because now I know how trusting chance can be. I mean the vet was trying to make Chance out to be a monster.. shes liek u know I have two kids to go home to.. so I do need to make it out alive.. im like look I can sit under chance and sit on the ground and clean out her hooves etc.. you'll be fine. shes like yes but im putting a needle in her nerve... im like... just try it once.. if she does something u can twitch her. Of course my baby is perfect and just stands there. The vet glared at me! LOL!!
 

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Oh I am so sorry to hear about your mare but I am glad that you had the vet out to check her , I hope all the treatments go well
 

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Michelle, I am so sorry to hear about Chance's injury and illness. Lyme disease can cause some serious mental issues (a friend of ours shot himself in the head from being made so insane by Lyme disease. Thankfully he did not die and with treatment is recovering from the disease). This isn't the worst prognosis ever and I know that vet bill is biting you, but Tanner racked about that much up with a choke incident late friday night, which is a stupid reason to fork out $600 but we do what we must huh?

I hope treatment successful for your girl and that she makes a full recovery from her lameness/injury. And good for you for sticking to your guns when there were many who said this was in your head, or that Chance is just a nutcase. The caveat there is that you may need to face the fact that the Lyme may have life long consequences on her personality. I am going to make it my mission this week to find out all I can about this disease and the prognosis, they are going to be so sick of me out in the clinic, but I promise to get as much info for you as I can!! Good luck girl, you two are in my thoughts to night.
 

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Would Lyme cause a horse's coffin bone to rotate? Would it cause lameness at all? I'm moderately familiar with Lyme, but not totally....
Lyme can cause laminitis, but does not frequently present this way. Often the lameness is intermittent and shifting.

oh, and HAF- Ace= acepromazine. It is a nice sedative with longer action than many others commonly used, but it has an unfortunate but RARE side effect of penile paralysis so many vets steer clear of it. Obviously this is not an issue in Chance's case so you may ask about it if she goes insane over having a lot of stall rest. Like any drugs though, only use when you must. Tanner loved his this weekend while we tried to resolve his choke. He was the most mellow fellow ever on it.
 

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^^really ? i thought most vets stayed away from it because it is so easy for the to fight it & 'wake up' basically. ive never heard a vet say it was from the very rare side effects...

sorry to hear about chance, i wish her a quick recovery
 

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^^really ? i thought most vets stayed away from it because it is so easy for the to fight it & 'wake up' basically.
that is true, if you're trying to do treatment, but if you're trying just to keep them quiet in a stall, it works pretty well. I do work with a lot of vets who do stallion work, so maybe that is why they are always so anal about saying "don't give him Ace!!". They made me get Tanner's records to make sure he'd had it previously before they'd give it to him. Each practitioner has their preferred cocktails though...
 

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HorsesAreForever -- I am sorry that you now have to deal with the lyme disease and the lameness, but it is good that you are now backed up with a diagnosis -- some answers for you! Good luck with the treatment!
 

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Thank you so much Teal for all the support you've given me through out my posts.

Only now do I wish I COULD blame it on the training.. seeing that this could leave life long effects. Either not ever being 100% sound again.. or maybe being unpredictable which Id rather deal with that as well cause im sure I could find a pattern. The vet did say for her certin cold temps could trigger the active lyme.. so if I could find that out and avoid getting on her during that time it should be a lot smoother.

Even today it was colder then it has been in a few weeks and when I was trotting Chance in hand it was like flying a kite, but then all of a sudden she was fine again.. to her normal self. Even the vet gave a huge HMM! lol. Chance is SUCH a laid back mare, you tend to know something is wrong when shes throwing her self around like that. But shes a horse as well so I cant exspect her to be perfect all the time. Especially when she needs to be :p

But Im praying that she makes a full recovery with this treatment.. and the lameness goes along with it..if not then that means I would be spending another good $300 on xrays and ultrasounds to see what else is going on there. The vet believes the lameness and lyme are 2 seperate things but im crossing my fingers that we can just get past this treatment.. have everything be clear and move forward and never look back.

Now.. is it gonna be that easy? Probably not.
One can hope.

Let me know what you find out I am quite curious!
Horses are EXPENSIVE careers/hobbies. Only now is that really hitting me I cant believe how much that racked up so quickly.

Thank you Gypsy :)

NorthernMama - At least I know for sure whats going on. Rather then taking guesses. Thank you by the way :)
 
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