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Stuff like this rarely happens from what i've seen. I've worked at rodeos over two summers and if any men (or women) run a cow into the fence, or 'keep going' when the steer is hurt they either get disqualified and/or get a hard time about it. I've even seen some cowboys give each other the cold shoulder if they are roping or riding showing off what they can do. Over spuring or tugging on their horses are uncalled for.
 

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That actually brought tears to my eyes. Call me a sook I don't really care, that was a baby calf for goodness sake, can you imagine the pain it was in running off with a broken leg? They should have shot it when it was still tied up on the ground, straight away.

I don't care if it only happens rarely, once is enough. Truly sickening. Too bad you aren't allowed to use profanities on this website as there are a few choice terms that spring to mind which would perfectly describe people like that calf roper.
 

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Accident propagandized to make people look like monsters. And the saddest thing is it works and people feed into it and vilify rodeos and the competitors....
 

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I saw someone at a jumper show and she was hauling on her horses mouth with a vicious gag bit, and whipping him and spurring him when he wouldn't go over a jump.

BAN THE JUMPERS! THEY"RE ALL ABUSIVE!

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Oh, I guess I missed the part where the vet came running over to put the calf to put it out of its misery. Or maybe the fence really wasn't that hard after all, perhaps someone should have told the calf to suck it up and stop being so soft. I mean really, he chose to run that direction didn't he?

You know, I don't really have a problem with rodeos, they are exciting to watch the rider/horse combinations are amazing. I do believe that given the nature of competitions like this one there should be a vet on standby to deal with any animal that needs to be attended to or put down. Immediately. The fact that this calf got up and ran across the arena dragging its back leg is a disgrace.

Now if you will excuse me I am off to hug a tree with all the other animal loving hippies.
 

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I agree that perhaps this situation was handled wrongly, and that the calf needed to receive immediate medical attention. However, i also agree that this was probably an accident. Perhaps not the running into the fence bit. The rider surely has eyes. That looked a little intentional.

MacabreMikolaj, not all jumpers are abusive. I myself am a jumper, but I don't use spurs or whips or gags. Please don't generalize. Not all jumpers are abusive, just like not all rodeo riders are as careless as these obviously were
 

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I can't watch the video at work, but was it apparent that the calf had broken it's leg before they untied it?
 

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Yeah it was. The calf was injured after it got up but not before. Sometime when it was tied
 

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^ Miko was being sarcastic - Comparing the vilification of rodeo riders to a similar idea with jumpers - She doesn't actually think all jumpers are abusive :]
 

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I have a lot of problems with the language and rhetoric used in that video, and find it interesting that it's three years old.

There is probably a case to be made for better treatment of cattle in rodeo events, but this video didn't make it and actually lose credibility with me for it's overblown statements.

sarahver, I watched the video twice and couldn't detect anything wrong with the calf until *after* it was released and ran back to the pen; likely the rodeo staff didn't either.

Finally, while it's certain the the calf was injured, since he was partially weight bearing on the leg, we have only the maker of the video's word that the leg was broken. Should the calf have been examined and given medical attention? Yes, absolutely. Do I believe all the claims of the folks who made that video? Heck, no.
 

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sorry my mistake. I took the capitals to mean she was serious. =P Shows how much I know
 

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You are right that the clip is certainly made in an influential way and since I am a huge sucker when it comes to seeing animals in pain I guess I am a good candidate to be affected by such a video.

I really didn't like to see it being run in to the fence though, broken leg later on or not!
 

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It is hard to see from the video exactly when the leg broke due to the horse being in the way. When the calf was being tied, the injured hind leg was on the ground as the calf lay. If it were not for the words on the screen, I would not have known at this point that the leg had broke. I think It is reasonable to assume that the few cowboys out there may not have known until after the calf was untied and started to run away that the leg was broke. Ok, so grey area.
Unacceptable, however, that the calf apparently did not receive any vetting asap after the fact.
 

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It's that whole "you can't hear a person's tone or inflection in an internet post" thing.

Plus, some of us are familiar with MM's posting style.

If you've ever worked around cattle, you'd be inclined to discount the whole "run into the fence" thing. That calf might have behaved in exactly the same way without the horse close on this heels, the holding pen with his buddies was at the same end of the arena. Newly penned cattle will run into and run up the fence like that without any extra pressure. The horse and rider were that close because, well, it's a whole lot easier to rope from close in.

That said, I'm not always wild with the way rodeo stock is treated, particularly the way calves are thrown and tied. At the end of the local rodeos, the calves get smart, and by the end of the day they practically lay down and hold three legs up when they feel the rope. A cowboy acquaintence of mine refers to it as "the cattle are soft"

sarhvr, Don't feel bad. They make videos like that because playing on people's emotions in that way is effective. They wouldn't do it if it didn't work.
 

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or did he and you didnt see it???
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Absolutely not denying that the leg was injured during the rope and tie, was just trying to clarify for wildspot (who cannot view the video at this time) that (to me anyway) it wasn't obvious that the calf was injured until it got up.
Is that what you were asking?
 

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First, that was not a PRCA rodeo. I doubt it was a rodeo at all, it looked like someones practice pen. Most rodeos have tarps or banners at the end of the arena to prevent cattle from trying to jump through the fence. This is not only for the animals welfare but for economic reasons (roping calves are expensive). The calf was roped around the neck but the calf ran through it and it caught on the hind legs. One of them broke and the roper was trying to get enough slack to set the calf free. His horse was working like it should and was trying to keep the rope tight. The calf was probably euthanized as soon as there were not as many eyes around so it didn't end up on youtube.
 

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Once again, I can't see the video, so i'm just going on what is written.

Finally, while it's certain the the calf was injured, since he was partially weight bearing on the leg, we have only the maker of the video's word that the leg was broken. Should the calf have been examined and given medical attention? Yes, absolutely. Do I believe all the claims of the folks who made that video? Heck, no.
Generally if it is a clean break on a calf or sheep, you can see the leg flopping around - If they are just not weight bearing then it may well have been something less serious.

Also - It is bl**dy hard to catch a calf on it's feet, even a three legged one - it may have been necessary to get it into the yards out the back to provide proper assistance.
 
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