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Apollo recently started doing this the last 3 times I rode him. Its driving me crazy. I will be on the mounting block and he will take a step back. I hop down and back him up a few steps and tell him to stand. This will happen 2 or 3 times and I will finally be able to put my foot in the stirrup without him backing up...then when he feels my weight in the stirrup when I get on he will walk off before I can even get my other stirrup. I immediately stop him and back him up again and have him stand then walk on when I ask.

Today he did the same thing except started trotting off (which is weird because I usually have to get after him a bit to get him to trot)...I pulled my right rein and made him go in small circles until he came to a stop and made him back up. We walked and trotted a couple laps, practiced stopping and backing and then got off and then back on and he walked off again...it is driving me crazy.

How would you go about training him to stand while/after being mounted.
 

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When I have a horse that wants to move when I don't want them to, I make them really move their feet. I don't just back them up a few steps I will send them off and lunge them a few circles in each direction or back them up aggressively. Making them move their feet in a hurried manner. I get them breathing pretty good so that standing still is the better option. If you don't get their feet moving with some energy from them, backing up really isn't a consequence to moving.

Edit: This is with a horse that is not moving because of fear. That would be a different response and I don't think your horse is doing it out of fear.
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First off, I'd wonder why he just started doing this. Any tack changes? Worn areas? blanket folds/bumps? Is he getting bumped by your foot when you mount?

Set up a mounting area where you can restrict his movement forwards and to the right -- a corner spot of a fence perhaps. Mount up. Sit. Do nothing. Get off. Lead him around. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.

If you are going to actually ride that day, repeat this exercise at the end of the ride as well to reinforce. Maybe only one repeat though :)

Next day. Same thing, but move back from the forward block/fence so there would actually be room for him to take a step or two forward. If he moves when you mount, when you are up, back him up to where he was. Sit. Do nothing. Get off. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.
 

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A horse that walks off is a serious problem.
If he backed one step I''d back him 20 and bring him back to where he started. If he stepped to the left, I'd be circling him left several times.
 

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When I have a horse that wants to move when I don't want them to, I make them really move their feet. I don't just back them up a few steps I will send them off and lunge them a few circles in each direction or back them up aggressively. Making them move their feet in a hurried manner. I get them breathing pretty good so that standing still is the better option. If you don't get their feet moving with some energy from them, backing up really isn't a consequence to moving.

Edit: This is with a horse that is not moving because of fear. That would be a different response and I don't think your horse is doing it out of fear.
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Yes lunging in tight small circles.
 

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Nothing has changed...same tack and everything. Maybe my right foot is bumping him when I get on because I'm anticipating him walking off and I try to quickly get my stirrup. I also wear pointy toed cowboy boots so maybe my left foot is poking him when I first put my foot in the stirrup? I made sure to look when I got on today and I didn't poke him, but maybe it happened last time and I didn't realize it?

I'm not going to be able to make it out for the next 2 days because of work and my night class :cry: so I'll have to work with him on it on Friday. Thanks for the advice. I'm open for other techniques too so I can see what works best for our situation.
 

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This is a very dangerous habit that many horses get into. But it can be fixed pretty quickly by making them like moving away LESS than they like standing to be mounted. Kind of like "if you want to move, then I will give you a reason to, but you won't like it!" :twisted: :lol:

I put just the ball of my foot on the stirrup tread so I can drop my foot back out quickly, then I bounce a bit like I am going to mount. If they step away or walk off I immediately drop my foot back out of the stirrup, pull their head around, get big, growl, swat their butt and run them in a few very quick, tight circles. Then I stop them, rub them, tell them to "stand" and do it again.

Of course this works best for mounting from the ground. Those who use a mounting block will have to modify the "step down and correct" action to take into account standing on the block.

Most horses will only take a few repeats of this and they will hold their ground like they are glued down. Some are more set in their ways and will need reminding on occasion for a while, but it has worked on all of the confirmed "move while mounting" problem horses I've ever used it on. :)

Good luck and let us know how it goes.
 

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To me, if the point is you want horse to stand still? Making horse move makes no sense.

Teach horse a "be still" command verbally, and by correcting horse for moving period, on ties, while grooming. Can use whatever works for you, I also have used "keep those feet still" and "plant 'em".

And make sure offside rein is slightly tighter, so that if horse moves, it is coming under you too.

Bring horse up to block, tell them to be still, tighten off rein and then get in saddle. Make sure there is no poking, you are not hanging off of saddle too long and not plopping down in saddle or dragging foot across.

And then when you are mounted, stand still.

Also need to work on horse standing still when leading by you stopping and just staying still.

But your mechanics have more than likely caused this. Also would wonder if there are other areas horse is doing what it wants, but it isn't a problem yet?
 

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I pull my horse's head toward me before I mount. I do flexing exercises while standing before I mount and finish up holding his head about where my knee would be. I mount from a block, so it's not as hard on him as it might sound. I step into the stirrup once I have his head around to the side and then I step on. If he moves, it's in a very tight circle and easy to stop. Once he's got the idea of standing while mounting with his head to the side, then I start doing it without pulling to the side and see if he'll stand straight. If he stands still, once I'm on then I just sit and chat with someone for a few minutes. If he gets antsy and moves, we do a circle and come right back to the block and sit longer. It takes a few times but they get the hint. I also will move the block to a corner and stick him face first into a fence or wall and mount with him between the block and fence or wall and then we back out. It just takes repetition.
 

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If you can mount from the ground it's best, similar to faydes mum if they move I make em spin in HQ yields its hard work for them. Once you're up sit there for a while before you move.

From a block pop a halter on so you have one lead ( to start with) go to mount normally but slowly, if the horse moves use the halter to back em up. If they go backwards drive them forward. Do not get off the block if you can help it.
 

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The simplest way I've found to fix walking off is, to mount and just stand. If you need someone to hold em so be it.
But get on and just stand. Get comfy and sit around a few minutes.
I've been known to view HF on horseback.

A lil more detail, get mounted. Then you have control,hopefully. Then just keep your horse from walking off. Now that may be problematic for some horses, but make sure they end up back where they started atleast. And stand.
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Try when you mount once you get seated take a step or two back. They get used to that being the drill and wait for it. As far as getting to that point of sitting without moving, I put my foot in the stirrup and keep saying whoa, whoa, or stand so it keeps them thinking stand still then good when they do. If they do not then I step back out and pitch a fit (CJM) and then we do it again, lol. I should be able to get up and sit at my pace and go when I say go.
 

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The simplest way I've found to fix walking off is, to mount and just stand. If you need someone to hold em so be it.
But get on and just stand. Get comfy and sit around a few minutes.
I've been known to view HF on horseback.

A lil more detail, get mounted. Then you have control,hopefully. Then just keep your horse from walking off. Now that may be problematic for some horses, but make sure they end up back where they started atleast. And stand.
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This^^^^^is the easiest way to train a horse to stand still for mounting from the very beginning of mounting and it's the best way to keep them in the 'no go' frame of mind.....I always sit and pause for a little bit once I mount.....and the only time my horse has actually moved away from me like 'hey lady you're not getting up there' was after a chiro appointment that made him sore for about a week (I know! I know!) and he was being honest, he was bloody sore.

However - if my horse moves off before I'm ready or as I'm swinging my leg over.....he soon regrets it:evil: it's too unsafe for a short person like myself to have my foot up in the stirrup and the horse decides to move off....he gets his butt pit right back where it began....
 

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To me, if the point is you want horse to stand still? Making horse move makes no sense.

Teach horse a "be still" command verbally, and by correcting horse for moving period, on ties, while grooming. Can use whatever works for you, I also have used "keep those feet still" and "plant 'em".

And make sure offside rein is slightly tighter, so that if horse moves, it is coming under you too.

Bring horse up to block, tell them to be still, tighten off rein and then get in saddle. Make sure there is no poking, you are not hanging off of saddle too long and not plopping down in saddle or dragging foot across.

And then when you are mounted, stand still.

Also need to work on horse standing still when leading by you stopping and just staying still.

But your mechanics have more than likely caused this. Also would wonder if there are other areas horse is doing what it wants, but it isn't a problem yet?
I like that you mention that off side rein.....:wink:
 

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To me, if the point is you want horse to stand still? Making horse move makes no sense.
Think of it as reverse psychology. You are taking the fun or want out of it. They want to move? Fine, but they are going to move a heck of a lot more than they want to.
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All the horses I seem to ride have this problem. With my OTTBs, I don't blame them since they mounted while they were walkinh at the track. I just get on and make them stand. If they try and shoot off I'll kick them around the arena at an in-hand gallip fot 5 minutes before I stop, get off, and walk back to mount. They usually stand because standing is their relaxation to the past 5 minutes of running. But..I usually just get on and stand. I mount beautifully from a block, so they have nothing to complain about. From the ground is a different story...lol.
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I'm usually out alone so I don't have anyone to hold him for me, and our outdoor arena is rounded on the ends so there is no corner to plant him in and one of the rounded off edges is part of a horses pasture and she is not the friendliest little mare...lol. I will try a couple different strategies and see what works best for him. I think he's just testing me because he had a week and a half break recently and this wasn't happening before the break...or he's been watching his bff (my friends horse) walk off while being mounted and her not correcting him lol. Thanks for all the advice.

If I actually get off work on time I may have an hour and a half out there which is plenty of time...or I can stay longer and miss a bit of my night class ;).
 

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I worked with a smart little mare that would take a step or two in various directions which kept the owner guessing. I stood on the block, held her head close and used the whip to make her hips circle around. The front end is barely moving. This is tiring on the hips. The first time she had to complete a circle. I didn't expect her to make a connection so I lined her up and she moved again. Again she had to circle her hips. After the third time she kept her feet cemented in place and didn't move either during mounting nor until she was asked. Of course in time she tested her owner so she got a reminder and that was the end of it.
 

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Its about making the wrong thing hard and the right thing easy, when you put your foot in the stirrup and he starts to walk forward use your inside rein and and move his head towards your hip so he should move move in a circle(keep ur foot in the stirrup tho) when he moves forward do springy jumps as if ur just about to mount up. he will keep moving around so you keep bouncing, when he stands still, u stay still aswell and then take ur foot out and give him a good old pat. keep doing this and he might get the picture.
this works with some horses from my experience.
hope i helped!!
 
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