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I fell in love last Fall with Lyric's mom, Comanche. Here is the thread I started on her http://www.horseforum.com/horse-pictures/new-picture-comanche-46029/. She's an coming 8 yr old mare that has only been used as a broodmare. She's halter broken and that's pretty much it. I'm fully capable of training her. She's in foal for a 2010 baby to a buckskin sire. (both are AQHA) I am really excited about the baby, but also EXTREMELY nervous as I'm aware that things can go wrong. They are asking $650 for her. Did I mention I'm a big fan of quarter horses. I've never owned another breed.

The other day I found this guy. He's a haflinger x qh 2009 colt. Here isthe thread I started about him. http://www.horseforum.com/horse-breeds/haflingers-question-46015/ I am hoping to go see him sometime this week. (after our blizzard goes away.) I don't know what it is about him that pulls to me, but it does. I've honestly never heard of the haffy breed until now and reading about them (thanks to Cheyaut Haflinger Horses )only makes them so much more interesting and makes me think I could really enjoy a haffy. I'm a huge fan of smaller horses anyway. They are asking $300 for him.

Now I don't know which way I want to go. Comanche or this little guy?

I'm nervous about going with Comanche because I've never had a pregnant mare before even though it's been my dream. I'm terrified that something might go wrong even though she seems to deliver just fine on her previous babies. She would be due around the same time all our cows are due to calve. And then I worry that I might be biting off more than I can chew..maybe I can only train/break two yr olds...what if everything I've done before doesn't work for an older mare?

The little haffy colt would definately be the easier choice. I'm so intriqued by the haffy breed. I love the stocky smaller build look. He would be close to the same age as Lyric. I think he'd fit in nicely with Lillie and Lyric.

<sigh> I'm so torn. Maybe once I go and see him the decision will be easier to make.
 

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The colt seems so much more suited to you. I can tell by your post you are leaning towards him and I agree with that. Hes a cute colt and if youve never had experience with breaking an older mare OR birthing a foal than thats two things you have to face at the same time you may not be prepared for, that could cause alot of probelms and un needed headaches. If you get the colt you will still be expriencing something new by owning a halflinger but you still will be in your realm of exprience with breaking in younger horses.
To me it seems like a no brainer.
 

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$300 for one, $650 for two. I'd go with the Haffie.

Why was she made into a broodmare? Was she just never trained, or was there a reason she was never trained? I am just curious.

There will be lots of time for having your own foal born. I am ALWAYS nervous during foaling, though it gets a little better with experience. It is nice to experience it a few times under the eye of a person who knows what they are doing. Foaling season is coming up. Start asking around if you can go on foal watch.

With the mare, what are you going to do with her after the foal is weaned? Work with her? Leave her as a pasture pet? Obviously you'll be working with the foal. Can you handle working with multiple horses?

The haffie could give you experience with handling youngsters, and be a good little project.
 

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I don't know why they have her as a broodmare other than that's what she was bought to do. Which is why they probably never trained her.

I've had experience training horses and starting younger horses. I have no problem handling multiple horses in training. Not only am I working with Lillie (she'll be 2 this year) but I'll be doing round pen/ground work with Lyric (who will be a 1 yr old) and I will have a friend's two yr old to train as well.

I wanted to be able to train comanche and ride her. Use her for trail riding and general all purpose farm horse to help moving cattle when needed. I've just never used my training on an OLDER horse.
 

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Anyone else? Just curious?
 

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I'm going to look at him tomorrow around noon. I'll try to take more pictures.
 

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I dunno, I think I'm going to go against the flow and say go with Comanche. I've never trained a horse from the ground up, just retrained problem horses so take what I say with a grain of salt. =) And I haven't worked with young horses very much.

I've only worked with a young horse really once (a barely 2 year old, if she was lucky, it was pretty awful, for an entire summer) and I have to say that a young horse that needs training is way different, imo, than an older horse that needs training. The older horses I've worked with always seemed more comfortable in their own skin, less volatile, calmer about new things etc. I think Comanche will probably get past being "green" way faster than this little one will, just because of her mental maturity level. It might be nice for you to have a more mature mount to give yourself a break from Lyric and eventually Lillie.

Don't take this the wrong way but with the whole foaling thing, the way you typed it made it sound to me like you're convincing yourself that it wouldn't be a good idea. That may just be me being weird and interpreting things that aren't there but I'm just saying what I see. =) If you have someone who's expeirenced with foaling that can let you pick their brain, why not? She's foaled at least twice from what I've seen and both times it went well, right? =) She probably knows exactly what to do, instead of being undersaddle "broke," she's foaling "broke."
If you've always wanted to foal out a mare and you have the facilities and the help to do it safely, I say go for it! You'll never know unless you try and you might surprise yourself with your skillz.

Good luck with your decision! I saw your thread with the little Haffie and he was super adorable. =)

You'll know if the decision is right, on the inside; just listen to your heart and you'll be ok. I know that sounds cheesy, "Just listen to your heart Plainsdrifter!," but these last few weeks I've been discovering the truth in those words and my life has been feeling way better inside my heart now that I'm letting my logical side go a little and following what my insides say...
 

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For all the bad talk, training an older horse really isn't that much more difficult than training a younger one. The same systems work for both. Though the haffy cross is cute and I bet he would be big enough for whoever wanted to ride him, I would probably personally go for the mare. There is a bigger re-sale value there in the event that you would have to sell. There is also more opportunity. She is registered and if the foal can be registered, that is another plus. Do you know her bloodlines or the stallions that she is in foal to? Sure there is risk with a pregnant mare, but there is risk with any horse you look at. The haffy could colic or founder.

That being said, if the haffy draws you, then by all means go take a look at him. The decision is ultimately yours and yours alone but sometimes you really do have to consider the dollars and cents.
 

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Thank you. I appreciate everyone's input. Gentleman that owns the haffy called and had to reschedule for either Wed/Thurs, so we will see.

Honestly, as much as the haffy draws me to him, he is only 1/2 haffy. So that doesn't mean that as he matures that he'll end up looking like a haffy or have the traits of one. He could go the other way and just look like a qh just like his dad. That part doesn't draw me to him at all.

Smrobs..I know all horses could founder..but do haffy's have a better chance of foundering?

When I think of Comanche and her foal. I can honestly "SEE" myself riding her. I can picture it, invision it, I've even dreamed of it. I think she is my dream.

If you think you can hear me being hesitant, your right, but it has more to do with a couple of things that I chose not to write here at the time but have been figured out/talked about since then.
 

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I think your decision will be easier for you after you see the haffy, I hope it helps instead of making it harder. I (a stock horse owner all my life, paints) personally would go for the quarter. Like Smorbs said also she and her baby are registerable and in the event of a resale your going to get more out of it. I would just think about if you are able to care for the mare until she foals and that you have the things you need for the delivery and once you wean the baby if you are able to deal with that as well. But with the right help delivery shouldnt be your decision breaker for the mare.
 

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I fell in love last Fall with Lyric's mom, Comanche. Here is the thread I started on her http://www.horseforum.com/horse-pictures/new-picture-comanche-46029/. She's an coming 8 yr old mare that has only been used as a broodmare. She's halter broken and that's pretty much it. I'm fully capable of training her. She's in foal for a 2010 baby to a buckskin sire. (both are AQHA) I am really excited about the baby, but also EXTREMELY nervous as I'm aware that things can go wrong. They are asking $650 for her. Did I mention I'm a big fan of quarter horses. I've never owned another breed.

The other day I found this guy. He's a haflinger x qh 2009 colt. Here isthe thread I started about him. http://www.horseforum.com/horse-breeds/haflingers-question-46015/ I am hoping to go see him sometime this week. (after our blizzard goes away.) I don't know what it is about him that pulls to me, but it does. I've honestly never heard of the haffy breed until now and reading about them (thanks to Cheyaut Haflinger Horses )only makes them so much more interesting and makes me think I could really enjoy a haffy. I'm a huge fan of smaller horses anyway. They are asking $300 for him.

Now I don't know which way I want to go. Comanche or this little guy?

I'm nervous about going with Comanche because I've never had a pregnant mare before even though it's been my dream. I'm terrified that something might go wrong even though she seems to deliver just fine on her previous babies. She would be due around the same time all our cows are due to calve. And then I worry that I might be biting off more than I can chew..maybe I can only train/break two yr olds...what if everything I've done before doesn't work for an older mare?

The little haffy colt would definately be the easier choice. I'm so intriqued by the haffy breed. I love the stocky smaller build look. He would be close to the same age as Lyric. I think he'd fit in nicely with Lillie and Lyric.

<sigh> I'm so torn. Maybe once I go and see him the decision will be easier to make.
Do you know how big the colt is going to get? are you planning this as a resale at some point? I think QHs would be a much easier resale than the pony but I think you've already made up your mind. Ultimately, I think you're the only who can make the decision. You know how much money, time and experience you have to spend on either 2 green horses or just the one. It's a big task to break a horse to ride. The advantage of the older mare is that mentally she will be more settled and ready to go for riding. You'll have to wait if you grab the colt and it takes a lot longer for them to mature mentally as well. I find there are more risks with younsters to because you now have to deal with the fact they might get hurt or sick before they even make it to riding time.

Having said that, the best horses I have owned were the youngsters who I raised myself, the way I wanted them. Nothing beats that. I myself would go for the mare BUT its going to be a lot more work.
 

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No, I don't think they have a better chance, I was just throwing a couple things out there that everyone is familiar with.
 

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Tough decision.

I went and looked at the haffy cross pics (I couldn't when I responded earlier on that thread as most photos are blocked at work, but i"m home now). He doesn't look haffy. I know he's only 1/2 and it's likely you'll be able to tell he's part haffy when he grows up (people who have haffies can always tell my haffy/welsh cob mare is part haffy) but he's not a haflinger. Haflingers are great IMO and my haffy cross mare is wonderful. But if part of your reasoning in wanting him is the breed, keep in mind he's only half and won't look the part. Just in case that makes a difference to you :)


I think you should hold off deciding until you go meet him. Which horse do you click with better? Which feels right to you? If you get the mare, you're not getting one new horse, you're getting two. Do you have enough space, finances and time for two? I won't worry too much in your decision regarding possible foaling complications. Yes, they're possible, I sure know for sure (I've had more than my fair share!) but it's more likely all will go well. Being an experienced broodmare, and full size horse vs mini is in your favor ;)


Make a list of pros and cons for each horse. Think it over. Don't rush into anything. Let your gut tell you which one is right for you :) And while you're waiting for the day to see the haffy cross, look around at other horses for sale as well. You may find there's another horse out there that's even MORE right for you! Buying horses is so exciting and so frustrating at the same time ;)
 

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After thinking about the choice I needed to make, and using my fiance and the board here as a sounding board, I've decided to stick with my first choice which was Lyric's Mom, Comanche. She's who I've been thinking about non stop for MONTHS now.

The main reason for considering the haffy x colt was the haffy side of him. I am extremely intrigued by the breed. I hope I'm lucky enough to own one in the future. But I guess it boiled down to his other half (his qh side) I wasn't willing to gamble on it. If I am going to go for a haffy (which I do want ONE DAY), I want to go all the way.

Thank you for everyone's thoughts and opinions and allowing me to think outloud on the board.
 
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