[Tasia]

Hi I am looking at purchasing a crates saddle(used). The saddle has Equi fit bars. I have never heard of those? Are they simaler to quater horse bars?
Thank you
Tasia

 

[SouthernTrails]

Equi-Fit is a Trademark for a Tree built by the Steele Saddle Tree Company.

Steele Make Semi, Reg., Full QH Bars and a few others using that Trademark.

You will have to ask the Selle what the Bars or Gullet Size is to know if it would fit your Horse.

Steele Makes a good Tree and Crates make a good Saddle


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[Tasia]

So if I need semi quater horse bars. What gullet size is that?

 

[Vidaloco]

Equi-Fit is a Trademark for a Tree built by the Steele Saddle Tree Company.

Steele Make Semi, Reg., Full QH Bars and a few others using that Trademark.

You will have to ask the Selle what the Bars or Gullet Size is to know if it would fit your Horse.

Steele Makes a good Tree and Crates make a good Saddle


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Be careful, there are 2 different Steele tree companys and 2 different Crates companys. One is a knock off the other.
This is the good Steele company- http://www.steelesaddle.com/
This is the knock off that gets sold on ebay- http://www.steelesaddletreellc.com/FTTH2.html

This is the real Crates- http://www.cratesleather.com/
This is the Crates that gets sold on Ebay under the GW Crate name - http://stores.ebay.com/Riders-Choice-Saddle-Pad-Co


ETA- Sorry I want to appologize. Those Steele equi-fit trees look like a good one.

 

[SouthernTrails]

So if I need semi quater horse bars. What gullet size is that?

The most common measurement for Semi-QH is 6.5" Gullet.


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[Tasia]

The most common measurement for Semi-QH is 6.5" Gullet.


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Oh! perfect thats just the info I need! I am a little nervous about buying a used saddle over the internet.

 

[Tasia]

The saddle isnt a crates its from the ASA western collection. From the look and info I have collected its seems to be a good quality saddle. We are able to return it but we have to pay shipping both ways if we need to return it. The seller is going to find the shipping cost tomorrow but I will have to wait til Thursday to know. We can also just buy the saddle and the seller pays shipping but we wont be able to return it. The other thing is I REALLY need a new saddle for reining but I need to have option of returning it. Is it worth no being able to return even when I am 98% sure it will fit?

 

[Vidaloco]

You may already know this but here is some information that may help.
If you haven't already, take a wither tracing. How to measure your gaited horse or mule for a saddle. FYI this is not just for mules and gaited horses :-D


Take that 3" down and bottom measurement. A semi quarter horse tree typically has a 6 inch gullet to a 12 inch bar spread and a full quarter horse tree has a 7 to 8 inch gullet and a 13 to 14 inch bar spread

 

[Tasia]

Thank you all. I did have mesured by a saddle fitter so 6.5in is what I need.

 

[iridehorses]

Vida, I think you have it incorrect. The Steel Tree that you have as the knockoff is the real Steel Tree company Steele Saddle Tree LLC - Fit To The Horse who makes trees for the majority of the name brand saddles out there.

The one you have listed as the real Steel is actually a saddle maker and a tree maker.

Both are very well made, neither is a knockoff.

 

[Vidaloco]

Vida, I think you have it incorrect. The Steel Tree that you have as the knockoff is the real Steel Tree company Steele Saddle Tree LLC - Fit To The Horse who makes trees for the majority of the name brand saddles out there.

The one you have listed as the real Steel is actually a saddle maker and a tree maker.

Both are very well made, neither is a knockoff.

I've just recently figured that out. I also noticed that the GW Crate is changing its name. Maybe got some flack for using the Crates

 

[iridehorses]

I've just recently figured that out. I also noticed that the GW Crate is changing its name. Maybe got some flack for using the Crates

I remember reading the writeup on Rider's Choice website some time ago and GW Crate was a relative of the owner. What is it being changed to?

 

[Vidaloco]

^^^ I asssume its "Riders Choice" I noticed many of the saddles for sale on Ebay are now listed under that name. Maybe they're just another brand of saddle for sale by the same company?

 

[SouthernTrails]

Crates Saddle Co is out of Chattanooga TN

GW Crates is Saddle Maker who works at Riders Choice in Bryant AL

I do not know of a blood relationship, but I heard form a few good sources GW Crates is a play on the Alphabet to get some business :lol::lol:

PS, quality is night and day difference between Riders Choice and Crates, the Original out of Choo-Choo City is superior, IMO

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[Vidaloco]

Crates Saddle Co is out of Chattanooga TN

GW Crates is Saddle Maker who works at Riders Choice in Bryant AL

I do not know of a blood relationship, but I heard form a few good sources GW Crates is a play on the Alphabet to get some business :lol::lol:

PS, quality is night and day difference between Riders Choice and Crates, the Original out of Choo-Choo City is superior, IMO

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Ah that makes sense. I wondered which was better, the Crates or GW. It looks like they use the same tree.
I have an email into Steele Equi-fit. I like the form saddle fitting idea of theirs. I'm guessing we don't have a fitter anywhere near us though :-(

 

[SouthernTrails]

It looks like they use the same tree.
I have an email into Steele Equi-fit. I like the form saddle fitting idea of theirs. I'm guessing we don't have a fitter anywhere near us though :-(

They both use Steele on the GW Crates and Crates models, the Riders Choice used Ralide too.

I have a set of 8 of the Steele Fit Forms if you want to borrow them

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[iridehorses]

Kevin ... you have the forms and never told me??????

 

[SouthernTrails]

Kevin ... you have the forms and never told me??????

Ohhhh, but I did, you had your mind on that Cremello Mare last night :lol:


I thought I did before, sorry



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[Vidaloco]

Kevin ... you have the forms and never told me??????

I've got dibs on them! :lol: