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I am leasing a very sweet appendix quarter horse from a lady near by. I am very fond of the horse and the is horse fond wiht me but i would like to get even more close to the horse. I ride her and she is fine and she lets me do a lot of things with her but I want to be able to trust the horse and the horse completly trust me as well. I feel like i can get closer to the horse though because the lady i am leasing her from I feel is continuously spying on me and it is a bit annoying. I can take the horse off the property and ride her without the lady there but while i am working with her on the property and getting her ready I feel like there is constintely eyes on me and the lady is nice but a tad bit annoying whenever i get there and vice versa..
I am going to move the horse to a boarding place on monday because the lady is moving so i was feeling a bit releived. I \now found out that she wants us to call her everytime we go over there so she can come as well. The lady is very "know-it-all"ish and never pays attention to the horse as it is so it frustrates me a little bit. What do i do?...
If the lady wants to come check and make sure the horse is ok from time to time i dont have any problems with that because i would do the same..but everyday!!!! I dont know if i can stand seeing her everyday still...
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that does sound annoying. unfortunatly its hard to do much about that, you don't want to do something to annoy her. Its hard to give you alot of advice since i don't know the age of you or the owner. If she is older than you, I would suggest just lighlty hinting that she doesn't need to be there, but if she is insiting she be there i would try to forget her. In the ring it is all about you and the horse you are riding. Just concentrait on what you are doing.

There is always the more sneaky way -- call her up and say that you are riding, and when you get there just walk around with him, do circles, serpentines, ect., make it so that the owner is bored. If she asks why you called to tell her that you were just walking, you could just say that you thought that thats what you were supposed to do, and suggest that you will call her when you are doing something different.....Mind you, in order to do this succesfully you would need to have a good amount of control over what voice tones you can conjure up lol

If you and her are both adults, and she is a reasonable person, you could talk to her about things, say that she would like the chance to get closer with the horse, and that you would like to spend a few days a week just you and him riding together, without someone watching. Make sure when you do this that you are very respectful, and tell her honestly what you feel.

Other than that i don't really know what else you could do lol ^-^'' i hope that helps a bit
 

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It doesn't sound like to me that the woman is really interfering (unless I'm missing something), and if that's the case I would just ignore her. I doubt she will come out to the barn every day anyway. You could offer to buy the horse (if you have the means to keep it) although she doesn't sound like the type of person that would want to sell. Other than that I don't see any options other than putting up with it or find a different horse to lease.
 

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Unfortunately, however annoying the woman is, "spying" on you is perfectly legitimate if you are only leasing. Is it a full lease or a partial lease (meaning does she still have the option to ride the horse, or is it basically all yours)? If its a partial lease she has more rights and I would definitely expect her to come out and see her horse every day, if not at least every other day. If its a full lease and the horse is basically yours, then she's probably just being paranoid, and she might not even come out to see the horse as much as you say.

Just take a deep breath, nod, and smile.....
 

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I am hoping you have a written lease. If she doesn't have in writing about being present then I wouldn't call her when you go, it's just that simple. If it is too stressfull, which it sounds like it is I would offer to cancel the lease.
 

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there is a lot more things that she does that is extrmely irratating that is too long to explain and i dont even know if i would explain it right...
yes i have a written lease and it is a full lease as well..i think she would sell it too me because she is moving and i am not sure she even has a place to stay right now, (which i am very sensitive too, and she also says she is gald she is seperating the horse i am leasing and the other one she owns because of a maternal bond between the two that she cant move forward with her horse trainning of the other one she ones...but i never thought of that...i think im going to try all the comments posted and if all else fails i will either end up with the sneaky way or the not calling way..thank you all so much for your advice it is greatly appriceated...thank you!
 

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:/ I would be botherd by that too.
I am also doing an offsite lease but the owner is 3 hours away. As soon as I went to look at the horse, and met her for the first time, I knew she knew what she was doing and she is VERY flexible and trustworthy. I feel like if you have a shady relationship with the owner like that, than you'll be afraid to really take advantage of the lease. If it were me, I would tell her I felt uncomfortable leasing right now. And about the whole moving thing, it sounds to me that she sounds unreliable and untrustworthy. But, the horse is way more important than her! Would it be too awkward to discuss her actions and your lease with her?
 

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I am leasing a very sweet appendix quarter horse from a lady near by. I am very fond of the horse and the is horse fond wiht me but i would like to get even more close to the horse. I ride her and she is fine and she lets me do a lot of things with her but I want to be able to trust the horse and the horse completly trust me as well. I feel like i can get closer to the horse though because the lady i am leasing her from I feel is continuously spying on me and it is a bit annoying. I can take the horse off the property and ride her without the lady there but while i am working with her on the property and getting her ready I feel like there is constintely eyes on me and the lady is nice but a tad bit annoying whenever i get there and vice versa..
I am going to move the horse to a boarding place on monday because the lady is moving so i was feeling a bit releived. I \now found out that she wants us to call her everytime we go over there so she can come as well. The lady is very "know-it-all"ish and never pays attention to the horse as it is so it frustrates me a little bit. What do i do?...
If the lady wants to come check and make sure the horse is ok from time to time i dont have any problems with that because i would do the same..but everyday!!!! I dont know if i can stand seeing her everyday still...
plz help...
sorry it is so long
thank you!
That's really crappy situation you're in. As it has been posted by everyone else tho, there is nothing you can do. I know that I would personally not be able to stand having someone do what she does and be ok with it. It's unfortunate because the horse works so well for you.

Perhaps sit down and talk to the owner. See if there is a reason she does what she does and see if she can perhaps give you a little more one on one with the horse instead of her always being there. I have no idea how you would explain to her the situation :? I don't that it's really appropriate...I dont know what else to tell you. You're only other option is to stop the lease and find a better situation.
 

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suck it up if you want to continue leasing the horse :)
 

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I had troubles when I leased a horse too, to be honest, the only way I got away from the irritating owner is getting my own horse, before I did that I tried talking to the owner, though she was immature and childish as an adult which resulted in a temper tantrum. I feel it's worth a try to talk your problems out. Some people like fixing the problem so everyone gets along.
 

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ya i have been looking into buying my own lately..the lady has been telling me that all of her shots and ferrier things have been done...i think different and the lady were i board her now thinks different too and i feel that the lady i am leasing her from is lying to us because she said she had all of it done a week ago...now i feel bad because i want whats best for the horse and i want the horse to be loving life not in pain with her hooves and not up to date on her shots...the place i am borading her at says they can do it for me for a good price but the lady that i am leasing her at insists its been done so she wont let me...its getting extremely irrating but i dont want to give up on the horse or leave her with the crazy lady that isnt taking care of her stuff..
thats the recent problems with the owner..
i have tried talking to her a little bit but like i said she thinks she knows everything and is extremely stubborn..
the horse loves me and walks right up to me and not the owner and it melts my heart...and im worried about her...but all this worrying is causing saddness and anger toward the owner because i cant make sure the horse is healthy wihtout her permission..
 

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ya i have been looking into buying my own lately..the lady has been telling me that all of her shots and ferrier things have been done...i think different and the lady were i board her now thinks different too
Is there anything in your boarding contract requiring current shots and farrier work? If so, maybe your BO could demand receipts from the owner to prove she really gave her the shots and had a farrier out.

I could definitely understand not giving shots if the horse really just had shots done (double dosing can't be good for the horse), but you might still be able to get a farrier out - unless your contract prohibits you from providing basic care :shock:. Even if she did have her hooves done, if the horse is in pain, then she obviously needs more attention to her hooves. I wouldn't challenge the owners honesty at this point, I'd just get a different farrier out, and if she objects point out that you can't ride a lame horse, and she obviously needed more attention because she is in pain.

Long term, you're probably going to have to buy this horse, or give up on your lease :?. The way you describe the owner, makes her sound dishonest and crazy, definitely someone you don't want to be connected to for very long.
 

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so new news on the boarding situation..
the lady where we are boarding the horse and the owner got into a big arguement because the owner was being rude,disrespectful, and not corroporating with the boarding lady..so there was drama with them and then,because both kept calling and complaining and acting childish i told the borading lady to let the owner take the horse and i would end my lease...i love the horse but i cant take all the risks (espically if she is going every morning doing round pin work and etc because i didnt know she was going over there until this day and if anything happens to the horse the owner is the type that will try and blame it on me and i do nothing but love the horse,train etc..) i weould bever hurt her or over over work her...
so we looked at a horse this morning and i think were gunna buy him only $500 and we checked himm out medically etc he is so goregous!..

thank u all for helping so much!!!

im free!! figuratively speaking
 

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so new news on the boarding situation..
the lady where we are boarding the horse and the owner got into a big arguement because the owner was being rude,disrespectful, and not corroporating with the boarding lady..so there was drama with them and then,because both kept calling and complaining and acting childish i told the borading lady to let the owner take the horse and i would end my lease...i love the horse but i cant take all the risks (espically if she is going every morning doing round pin work and etc because i didnt know she was going over there until this day and if anything happens to the horse the owner is the type that will try and blame it on me and i do nothing but love the horse,train etc..) i weould bever hurt her or over over work her...
so we looked at a horse this morning and i think were gunna buy him only $500 and we checked himm out medically etc he is so goregous!..

thank u all for helping so much!!!

im free!! figuratively speaking
It sounds like the stress was definitely not worth it - even if you really liked that mare. Congratz on the new horse (yay for peace of mind and a horse :D), now we need pictures :D !!
 

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Put yourself in her shoes. If that was my horse then I would be doing the same thing.
I dunno, White Foot. If I had a full lease on an animal, I'd expect it to be mine during the time I was paying to lease, not have the owner come out and work it whenever they felt like it.

That's more like a partial lease, and it seems this woman had a hard time realizing if she's receiving money for a full lease, she needs to back off and give the leasee some space.

Coming on occasion to visit the horse is fine. Showing up every day and working the animal in a way that might be detrimental to what the leasee is trying to do, is not.

In any case, the drama llama's gone and took her horse with her.

OP, good luck with finding your own horse. There's no greater feeling than knowing the horse you're riding is yours, and no one can take it away from you.
 

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thank you everybody...ya we found a horse that does a million things hes sooo amazing...his name is cesear and he is a gleding thoroughbred chestnut/sorrel coloring...hes gorgoeous and the biggest sweety...i will definitly put pictures up here of him as soon as i figure out how to do it :)..since ijm new to this thing....and i rode him before i bought him and that was a bout a week ago and i rode him this morning(but see him everyday of course i cant stay away from him haha)..riding him this morning felt amazing...i felt so much closer to him then i have ever felt to anything it felt like magic!!!!!...i can not even begin to say how much i love this horse!...if anybody knows about race or show horse's his name is caro's whisper(that is his race and show name the man i bought him from just called him cesear though)...and he is the son of cozzene and navtie whisper...i promise ill put pics up here soon!...

thank u everybody for all the advice!!!
 
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