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I need (want) to get another yearling to bring along. I'm looking seriously at getting one of these yearlings they have posted. Are there any of the horse colts that jump out at you?

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SavvyHearts said:
Having worked in retail I know that "you get what you pay" is not necessaily true. when purchasing something like dog food (my fiance used to work for Petco) and price-wise Iams, Euk., and Science Diet were one of the most expensive with Blue Buffalo and Wellness being a tiny bit more expensive, but not by much. Iams, Euk., and Science Diet are crap foods (IMO) and you are paying not only for the nasty ingredients in them, but you are paying for commercials...where as for Blue Buffalo and Wellness their ingredients are AWESOME (no by-products, artificial perservatives or scary things) and you are paying close to the same price. So no, you don't always get what you pay for ;)
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I stand corrected.
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kevinshorses
Savvyhearts is right. You should go to the auction and buy a colt for $200 and then spend $4000 training it and hope it has the drive for cutting or reined cowhorse. If it doesn't then you're only out $200 right?
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^ Lol :]
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Honeysuga
Kind of funny comparing horse worth to dog food eh? Maybe ironic fits better...


Anyway, the bottom line is, in the QH business, you want to pay for an investment with proven ancestry. You will pay a lot for the quality you get, but that quality is almost always garunteed, and even if it does not work out, you have a great lined stud or mare to easily make your initial investment back on in sire/foal fees. I think for a foal that could make up to hundreds of thousands of dollars in its lifetime, it is a good idea to pay for your quality up front.
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Gorgeous animals! I'm not a western QH fan, but still!

As for the price, I wouldn't even buy the $800 ones. I would, without a doubt, spend $12K on a WB colt of comparable quality. If I rode reining or cutting, I'm sure that would be reversed!
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They have some really nice quality horses, I would love one! I think they are priced accordingly to what they are and have a nice selection for lower budgets as well. Really drewling over a couple of those red roan fillies!
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What great looking horses...
Here are the one's I like


Fancy Lil Lena DR
Black Stallion (4/24/09)
(by Blue Spark Olena and out riggers Fancy Lena)
Selling Price: $3000
Fancy Lil Lena DR is described perfectly by his name. This colt has very nice conformation and is black with a lot of chrome. His dam’s sire won over $80,000 in the cutting pen. This is another colt that appears to be very kind and willing. This colt’s older brother is one of the top two or three colts in the yearling pen and I bet this colt will be the same.
Little Blue Peppy DR
Blue Roan Filly (5/2/08)
(by Blue Spark Olena and out of A Little Bit Peppy)
Selling Price: $6500
Little Blue Peppy DR is a blue roan daughter of Blue Spark Olena. She is out of a black grand daughter of two-time World Champion Peponita. Her dam has been a very good producer for us. She has produced reined cowhorse money earners and we have a two-year old that will be shown in Reined Cowhorse next year. Reserve World Champion calf roper Blair Burke has purchased two brothers to this filly. This filly is a very nice prospect.

Ruf Blue Spark DR
Blue Roan Stallion (4/10/08)
(by Blue Spark Olena and out of Beauty By Ruf N Pine)
Selling Price: $7500
Ruf Blue Spark DR is as nice a blue roan stud prospect as we have ever raised. He is by Blue Spark Olena who was the 2004 URCHA Open Hackamore Reserve Champion and the 2003 MRCHA Open Snaffle Bit Futurity Finalist. This colt has some size and is very balanced and clean. He has a very pretty way of moving around and using himself. His dam is a daughter of Lil Ruf Peppy and out of Jodie Cee Pine who was and NRHA money winner and producer.

It would be a very very difficult choice to make as these folks have a wonderful bunch of horses...
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kevinshorses said:
Savvyhearts is right. You should go to the auction and buy a colt for $200 and then spend $4000 training it and hope it has the drive for cutting or reined cowhorse. If it doesn't then you're only out $200 right?
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Funny cause that $12,000 foal isn't fully trained if trained at all, so that's $4000 on top of it. And just because it's bred for cutting or reining does not mean it has the "drive" it means it has the ability to, and a structure that will be able to do it easily.
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westonsma
I'm sure Kevinshorses was being sarcastic there, savvy.

I think that buckskin colt, Advantage Dunit.. I think he's got a really long head, almost cowy, and doesn't strike me as though he really fits the same grade as the other colts they've got posted...

I'm telling you, you'll have to see some of C4's colts. He's got a cremello out of the gray stud and buckskin mare too, who's thinking about graying out. All of his yearlings are ready to saddle up and ride. I called him last night to send me some pictures.
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westonsma
Also, the problem I've found with the Spark-bred horses is that where the neck meets the point of shoulder (right above the chest) is really high. If you look closely at them, their necks are placed really high, which in turn makes it harder for them to really lower their heads. Not that they can't do it, but it's not as easy, naturally, for them to lower their heads.

For example, look at the difference in the neck placement between
Playin with Boon DR and Lil Whiz Olena DR

They're right there next to eachother, but there is a notable difference. There's an even bigger difference between Playin with Boon DR and Like A Crystal DR.

I think if I were to pick one of the yearlings it would have to be Poco Cal Bar or Shining Zanolena DR.
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GandRPaints
Personally, what you spend on a horse is your buisness, everyones spending limit is different. I feel as long as you like the horse and you have the money to spend, buy it! I still really love the first filly I posted and to me shes very cheep!
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westonsma said:
Also, the problem I've found with the Spark-bred horses is that where the neck meets the point of shoulder (right above the chest) is really high. If you look closely at them, their necks are placed really high, which in turn makes it harder for them to really lower their heads. Not that they can't do it, but it's not as easy, naturally, for them to lower their heads.

For example, look at the difference in the neck placement between
Playin with Boon DR and Lil Whiz Olena DR

They're right there next to eachother, but there is a notable difference. There's an even bigger difference between Playin with Boon DR and Like A Crystal DR.

I think if I were to pick one of the yearlings it would have to be Poco Cal Bar or Shining Zanolena DR.
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If your doing reining or cutting I dont think they have to have low head sets like a pleasure horse. Im no expert on Cutting or reining but most that Ive seen dont carry their heads like a pleasure horse.
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westonsma
THESE ARE NOT MY VIDEOS.


Above's a video of a Dunit horse and its head carriage. Note the stops at 1:30, 3:39, and 3:50. Since his head is low, he is more balanced at the end of the stop to catch his balance for the next move, either a reverse or turn.


Here's a Peppy Badger Chex prospect, and from :59- 1:10 even without a rider, you can see his natural head carriage is low.



And this, a Spark horse, (one with that high neck-set) and if you watch his stops and spins, beit they are GORGEOUS, watch how much his poor head bobs when he lowers his head to stop and spin, and how hard he has to work to get the rollback. Which isn't that great, because of the way he stops.




Now, after seeing that spark horse there, take a look at this Wimpy bred 4 yr old. I had to watch this whole video a dozen times over. The only thing I could even TRY to criticize was the first rollback at 2:30, he threw his head up when he turned around, and he's young, so he swished his tail and pooped...



Here's a cutting horse with a lower neck-set, you can see immediately, even before the horse gets a cow. Then look at him as he moves toward the cow at 1:10, and 1:14, BOOM, that head is DOWN.

It is just easier for the horse to continue his momentum if he naturally puts his head down. Think about it this way: if a horse stops with his head up and has to yank back to the other direction, he either has to drop his head and his front end and throw himself the other way, or he has to rear up on his hind end. But, if his head were down in the stop and he had to go back the other way, he's already down, so he can save the time/energy and have the momentum already going for him.
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Sixxofdiamonds
Westonsma - great job with the video illustration!!


Yes, any horse that has to do rolling back or quick changes of direction benefits from a lower, balanced head carriage.
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westonsma
Why, thank you Sixx! Might I add, too, that buckskin buddy you got on your avatar looks beautiful!
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LoveMyDrummerBoy
My colt is Hollywood Dun It's grandson as well. He's also the best horse I have ever had. Very good bloodlines. :)
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westonsma said:
Why, thank you Sixx! Might I add, too, that buckskin buddy you got on your avatar looks beautiful!
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Thanks, he's my baby. :)
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I know this is an old thread, but wanted to post anyways. Very unhappy w/ davis ranch- bought 2 horses, one in cutting training that was 3 inches shorter than what they said. Another came 150 lbs underweight. Was also supposed to have 30 days riding on her, but couldn't even pick up her feet, brush her, or saddle her. It also took over 6 months to get my registration papers on the horses. BE CAREFUL WHEN BUYING FROM THEM!
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