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This is a thread to vent about all the things that tick you off in the horse world and why. Here is mine. People that go through horses like toilet paper. Buy sell buy sell.....Buy a horse, play with it, then send it off like a used toy...Poor horses should know where HOME is and never have to leave. Unless people intend on keeping the horse for themselves (or training (or rescuing) it and selling it, making sure they go to a forever happy home, and keeping tabs on the horse makings sure it goes to nobody else). But just for fun to try out every horse in the world? Not fair to the horse. I know someone who does this and some of the horses are lost forever and nobody knows where they wound up. What if they are dead, being abused, or headed to slaughter? Nobody knows or cares. Also, I have a 1 year old filly (coming 2 this spring) and I am her FOURTH home. Yes you read that right. I only bought her because I didn't want her to end up as another statistic. This is her FOURTH and FINAL home! Anyone else wanna pitch in?
 

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I used to buy and sell a lot of horses. Mostly just for the fun of seeing people get decent ones and the horses get to have a job and live. It was also a decent supplement income and a great way for my kids to grow up. I never do follow up. They bought the horse.

Something that bugs me is people who have overfed and/or out of shape horses and they want to come do some work with me. And then they think I'm mean when I turn them down or leave them to find their way home when they can't keep up. Worse, when the horse is so herd bound they start to throw a fit and the rider can't get them to go back to the trailer on their own. Really puts more work on at least one of the crew and horse by having to escort them back. Now it's "No" to everyone.

People who avoid having their horses and themselves sweat. I think most of us could do with more of it.

Riders who have more pre-ride rituals than a big league pitcher before a World Series game. If you're going to have 30 minutes of ground work before you can climb on ole Dobbin there, and I said we ride at 6 or 7 or whatever, then get there in plenty of time so you are ready when the rest of the crew is. That's another reason all requests are met with "No."

And I let people ride my horses a) if the work allows for newbies, and b) they don't think they can rope.
 

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I used to go through horses like toilet paper! I still would if I had the money, only 2 horses in my life I have actually considered keeping forever. I'd buy one, train on it, and resell. Do i grind your gears? ;)
If you read and paid attention to my full post then you actually don't grind my gears. Its ones that just do it to just play with a horse (not train) then sell it just because
 

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But what's the difference? I know people who go through lots of horses because they don't want to keep a horse they don't 'click' with, or a horse who wont be 100% suitable for what they want to do. I, personally, don't think there's a difference between that and buying - training - selling a horse. I also don't think it's up to you to keep tabs on a horse you sell 'forever' (most trainers don't) to make sure they're never ever sold. That's silly! Horses are livestock, they don't care where 'home' is as long as they're fed. Honestly, one of the things that grinds MY gears is the ideal that all owners need to provide forever homes for their horses and the idea that selling is a horrible horrible thing.
 

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But what's the difference? I know people who go through lots of horses because they don't want to keep a horse they don't 'click' with, or a horse who wont be 100% suitable for what they want to do. I, personally, don't think there's a difference between that and buying - training - selling a horse. I also don't think it's up to you to keep tabs on a horse you sell 'forever' (most trainers don't) to make sure they're never ever sold. That's silly! Horses are livestock, they don't care where 'home' is as long as they're fed. Honestly, one of the things that grinds MY gears is the ideal that all owners need to provide forever homes for their horses and the idea that selling is a horrible horrible thing.
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I think its a pretty big ask to expect people to keep their horse for 20+ years. I don't know what's going to be happening next week, much less a year from now, 10 years from now. You can make all the plans that you want but you never know what the future has in store.

The second thing is, while I like horses a lot, the bond I have with them isn't like I have with my dog or an animal that is in my home, in my everyday life. Sure I see Rosie everyday but her "family" is the herd. She spends what, 22 hours with them a day, an hour or two with me. There is no real comparison.

I do think each owner has the responsibility to sell the horse to an appropriate home, but not guarantee its forever.

And as far as buying and selling, as long as they care for and sell the horse responsibly then I don't really have a problem with it.
 

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But what's the difference? I know people who go through lots of horses because they don't want to keep a horse they don't 'click' with, or a horse who wont be 100% suitable for what they want to do. I, personally, don't think there's a difference between that and buying - training - selling a horse. I also don't think it's up to you to keep tabs on a horse you sell 'forever' (most trainers don't) to make sure they're never ever sold. That's silly! Horses are livestock, they don't care where 'home' is as long as they're fed. Honestly, one of the things that grinds MY gears is the ideal that all owners need to provide forever homes for their horses and the idea that selling is a horrible horrible thing.
Horses are living breathing thinking and feeling animals. Of COURSE they care. The difference is, training a horse and bettering it and making it more suitable so someone will be more apt to KEEP it instead of just buying a horse to play around with for nothing but your own selfish gain and then throwing it away when you get bored. Not fair to the horse. But people like you who think horses are mere livestock and that they have no feelings and that the only thing keeping them satisfied is food shouldn't HAVE horses.
 

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I think its a pretty big ask to expect people to keep their horse for 20+ years. I don't know what's going to be happening next week, much less a year from now, 10 years from now. You can make all the plans that you want but you never know what the future has in store.

The second thing is, while I like horses a lot, the bond I have with them isn't like I have with my dog or an animal that is in my home, in my everyday life. Sure I see Rosie everyday but her "family" is the herd. She spends what, 22 hours with them a day, an hour or two with me. There is no real comparison.

I do think each owner has the responsibility to sell the horse to an appropriate home, but not guarantee its forever.

And as far as buying and selling, as long as they care for and sell the horse responsibly then I don't really have a problem with it.
If you have to sell it and it isn't planned then yes thats fine. Life happens. But for those who just intend on playing with the horse for their own gain and then sell it to any old home is not my idea of someone who should have horses
 

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While I understand where you are coming from Horseychick, what grinds my gears is watching someone hold on to a horse that is not right for them, wasting their lives/time in the process along with hundreds of dollars - to try to have it become the horse it was not meant to be for them.

Knowing when to move on is just as wise as having the strength to hang on.
 

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While I understand where you are coming from Horseychick, what grinds my gears is watching someone hold on to a horse that is not right for them, wasting their lives/time in the process along with hundreds of dollars - to try to have it become the horse it was not meant to be for them.

Knowing when to move on is just as wise as having the strength to hang on.
Yes. I understand. This specific person though goes through over 20 horses PER YEAR. It is repetitive. And the horses are near PERFECT
 

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As far as selling and buying to find your right horse, that's just how it goes. My problem is bad mannered horses. Kicking, biting, etc.... That's just sloppy on the owners part. I seen an ad for a horse yesterday for a teen mare, supposedly broke and a great ride. But has a biting problem that started after they owned her. But they will trade for a broke horse who doesn't bite. Hmmmm how long till the next ones biting? I may actually look into the mare this weekend.
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People who whinge and whine and complain that I’m wasting time because I take 5 minutes to lunge my horse over a couple of jumps to loosen it up and let the saddle settle into place after I saddle it before work and then, when we get out to work, the person who was whinging takes 15 to 20 minutes to get their horse off the truck because they never bothered training it to unload properly in the first place.
 

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As far as selling and buying to find your right horse, that's just how it goes. My problem is bad mannered horses. Kicking, biting, etc.... That's just sloppy on the owners part. I seen an ad for a horse yesterday for a teen mare, supposedly broke and a great ride. But has a biting problem that started after they owned her. But they will trade for a broke horse who doesn't bite. Hmmmm how long till the next ones biting? I may actually look into the mare this weekend.
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I knew a horse like that. She is now at a dealer. Her second home this year. Maybe her last
 

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Horses get new 'homes' all the time in the wild. Stallions will challenge other stallions and possibly and take mares, etc.

What grinds my gears is...
People who have stallions but don't have any intention of breeding.
People who ALWAYS blame the horse.
Non-horse people who think horse people are rich.
People who don't mind their own business.

and things like that....
 

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People who can't stop their horse after a barrel run. I got slammed into by a galloping horse last week, was hanging hallway off my horse and was pinned up against the arena wall. If you can't stop your horse, don't run your horse. I don't understand why someone would take a horse with obvious training holes like that to a show. It ruins the day for other people.
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Horses get new 'homes' all the time in the wild. Stallions will challenge other stallions and possibly and take mares, etc.

What grinds my gears is...
People who have stallions but don't have any intention of breeding.
People who ALWAYS blame the horse.
Non-horse people who think horse people are rich.
People who don't mind their own business.

and things like that....
Or people that will breed a stallion just because he has testicles. I know someone who got a rescue stallion and let him breed willy nilly whenever he wanted. Turned him out 24/7 with a mare. First baby died. Second baby lived. Third baby killed both mother and baby during the birth
 

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What grinds my gears, (and I have a loooong fuse!), is when someone comes along and immediately criticizes your choice of hay, etc.. "you should do this, you should do that", when you actually bust your tail every single day to ensure your horses have the utmost and best possible care, feed, attention, etc. a human can give a horse, and your horses are so happy, bright, clean, smart, and well maintained :)
 
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