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What is the potential of this horse (Update:No longer considering)

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Due to assessing some current and mid/long term variables going on for me, I've decided now is not the time. It pains me deeply I had to give him up, but I'm hoping the right one does come along.

Thank you for all the responses!
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He is a beautiful horse and will make a lovely riding partner, I feel sure of it.
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There are, thankfully, lots of moments in the ridden videos where he is trying to reach forward and down. If he were given little releases to encourage him, every time he did this, it should be relatively easy to encourage better movement and less compression! He really is a lovely fellow.
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agreed! I rather like that fellow.
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@Tazzie

I also want to say I mean no disrespect--I don't want to sound complain-y(I didn't mean to). I was a smidge excited because I was speaking to the vets today for the ppe and we had a similar conversation--sorry if that energy might've translated incorrectly.
No disrespect felt at all! I wouldn't imply he'd be a bad purchase at all. He seems like a very sweet guy. Just some things will make him a bit harder. But I'm pretty confident he'd be worth the extra work. Good luck with him!
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The Friesian blood stands out in those long legs and the naturally high head carriage

If you do decide to buy him I'd strongly suggest you focus more on encouraging him to work in long low frame to encourage him to stretch and improve his length of stride in trot. He currently gives the impression of a horse that's been lunged or ridden in some sort of training aid to force is head in.

The canter work redeems him and he looks to have a good attitude

I think you'll probably find that jumping will be his strong point and dressage a struggle.

We had a Hackney cross years ago that had a very similar conformation - his dressage efforts were never great (understatement) but he was amazing in the showjumping ring and cross country.
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I agree with @jaydee that he will be a more natural jumper, and that dressage will be more difficult for him. As far as attitude and temperament, my friend has had a couple of Friesian crosses and trained several more, and all of them inherited a fairly unflappable temperament. One that was a TB cross did not have natural motivation or drive, she had to be pushed to stay forward. Which you would think the TB would provide that. The others had two or three breeds on the non-Friesian side, including Percheron, Arab, Mustang, TB. Those horses were both calm and self-driven, so very pleasurable to ride. As @tinyliny said, I would suspect the horse has a naturally beautiful trot that he does not know how to use yet. I think extension should be worked on until proper cadence and rhythm are established under saddle, because attempting to collect the horse at this stage is doing him no favors. Probably his working trot is big and so it has been stifled. In my opinion it needs to be ridden through and then brought back down to a more manageable size after he learns to use his body better.
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I'm not sure he has the suspension I normally see in dressage horses. I agree with the comments on a cranked in neck. Some horses have more of a natural inclination towards dressage and it's easier to get that if their conformation is correct. Not to bash him or anything, as he seems like a nice horse, but his neck doesn't arch as well as I would like- and forcing the headset just makes for an unhappy horse.

If you can find some posts by LoriF, she has a lovely Friesian Saddlebred mare. Her mare has a lovely elegant neck too!
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I really like him!
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Thank you again for more insight guys--I swear I am writing everything down (you should see the amount of cross-outs and additions haha)

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Guess who passed his full pre purchase exam!

Ironically the vet said he was built more for dressage, but honestly, I think the best thing for now- and a maybe even for a full year- is to explore with him all types of disciplines and fun things. I won't be so focused on anything specific. Having a first horse should be fun, we should explore and learn together. I can't wait to see what will happen in the coming weeks!
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Thank you again for more insight guys--I swear I am writing everything down (you should see the amount of cross-outs and additions haha)

So....
Guess who passed his full pre purchase exam!

Ironically the vet said he was built more for dressage, but honestly, I think the best thing for now- and a maybe even for a full year- is to explore with him all types of disciplines and fun things. I won't be so focused on anything specific. Having a first horse should be fun, we should explore and learn together. I can't wait to see what will happen in the coming weeks!
Yay!! Fingers crossed for you!!
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I spoke to the owners of this neat little horse and we had some great discussion! They told me the best things about him that they worked on (his willingness, mind, ground manners, canter) and the things that would need more work- such as his trot and the need for him to work in a lower frame. As far as his body shape too , he's a bit lean and has had steady growth--the owner said he will fill out more in a few years. I figured that to be typical of the cross. We spoke of everything in between. I guess I should start writing my goal list with this guy!
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I can't wait to see what will happen in the coming weeks!
Me too! Me too!
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Looks like this guy is a grandson of Pyt 325. I rode and worked with a Pyt 325 stallion (Friesian) that was very tall (17 hands) and just a sweetheart.

He was 4 years old and already had a mind of a solid citizen packer. Really nice horse!

I wish you luck on your journey!
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@knightrider
Haha thank you Knightrider

@Palfrey
Oh wow- that's quite amazing that you got to experience that! And, thank you- I'm looking forward to our journey
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I think he will make a very nice first horse. I look forward to seeing updates!
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There's no such thing as too many horse pictures! :)
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