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So this mare - the one that got away, for me, I regret not being able to buy her! - is a really pretty kind of bay that I'm addicted to. Her body is this rich sort of dark bay/brownish/red color, as you can see, she has all the black points and undertones of gold (seen in her face.) Is she just a mix of bays, therefore uniquely colored, or is she a specific color of bay that I'm unaware of? She was a kill lot baby, and she came to the barn with no mother.. so there's no help there. I have only seen one other bay look like her, but he doesn't quite have the undertones of yellow that she does.
 

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She's a seal bay (a.k.a seal brown or brown). The cinnamon coloring around the muzzle is a dead giveaway :)
 
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Brown agouti instead of the regular bay agouti. Beautiful horse!
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She's a brown:)
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Ohh.. that explains why I've never seen other bays like her! Haha.. thanks guys. :) If she is a seal bay, does that mean she's likely shed into a darker coat now that she's older? The barn I used to lesson at sold her, so you're looking at .. 2/3 years of age for her body shot, and 5ish for her face shot. I'm thinking of posting her to see what breed she could be too. Just 'cause I'm obsessing over her at the moment.
 

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She's not a bay at all.
Her summer coat would he lighter than her winter
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She has a change in her genes that make her soft spots (her nose, gives it away completely) are a golden color. True bays won't turn gold like that.
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I guess you could say she's a bay. Just not a true bay.
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Lexii, since you guys think she's a brown and Verona thought she was specifically seal bay/seal brown in color, would she have matured into a darker color or would she have just gotten darker with winter and shed out to the color she is in these photos in the summer?
 

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Brown = Seal bay/brown.

The lab who discovered/patented the test for the At agouti test refers to it as "seal brown" not seal bay. Seal bay is an old term before the test was available and they were thought to just be darker bays.
 

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NdAppy is correct. I use the three terms interchangeably, with preference for seal bay because I think it gives a more intuitive description of what it actually is- a variation of the same agouti allele responsible for 'classic' bay and wild bay- and is a term that many horse people are already familiar with even if they didn't realize it was genetically distinct from classic bay.
 

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OH! I get it.. at least I think. So you meant that she's a brown horse and her coat is going to remain that color (not get darker except for winter) but since the term "brown" falls in line with seal bay and seal brown, she can technically be all three, or at least the three can be applied to her without being wrong. Did I understand this correctly? (Gosh I hope so, sorry for the newbie-type responses.)
 

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OH! I get it.. at least I think. So you meant that she's a brown horse and her coat is going to remain that color (not get darker except for winter) but since the term "brown" falls in line with seal bay and seal brown, she can technically be all three, or at least the three can be applied to her without being wrong. Did I understand this correctly? (Gosh I hope so, sorry for the newbie-type responses.)
Right- kind of like gray and white. A horse who has grayed out all the way is visually white, and people would know what you meant whether you called the horse white or gray. But if you wanted to be technically correct, the horse is gray.

"Seal brown" is the technically correct term for your horse, but it often gets shortened to just "brown" and it's generally understood that "seal bay" is the same thing.

Seal brown horses do have a tendency to darken and lighten throughout the year, so don't be surprised if he seems to be a little bit of a chameleon :)
 

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Wonderful! Though she isn't mine (I reallly wish that she were) and I haven't seen her since we were both knocked out of the saddle (pastern injury for her and blown out knees for me) I just wanted to know her color.. I haven't seen her in the winter before. Lol.

Thank you all so much for your help in narrowing this mare's color down. :)
 
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