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It was pretty upsetting to read and learn where the millions go.
Out of 86 million raised less than $450.000 went to the actual care for the animals.
There is another article that show seized horses in Baltimore were left in the care of the HSUS and were living in worst conditions than what they left.

Seems the business of the HSUS is providing a lucrative living for management and lobbyist but lacking on actual care of animals.

Unpacking the HSUS Gravy Train
 

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The same could be said of PETA and all the other radical enviromental and animal activist groups. Don't even get me started about the "climate change" boloney.
 

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That's exactly a reason I don't donate to such organizations but go to the local reputable rescue and leave feed/medication there.

I've seen in news the registered 403(?) "Feed the homeless" (or something like that) organization basically was just making money for themself for several years in row. And not just taking donated money but also renting out the tables to place all around NYC for $25 a day. Of course now they are being sued and all, but it's just sick. I don't donate money anymore after that. I rather go and buy what's needed and donate (whether it's a rescue or food run).
 

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The same could be said of PETA and all the other radical enviromental and animal activist groups. Don't even get me started about the "climate change" boloney.
What? We are having the coldest winter on record in the past 15 years I think they said. I blame it on Global WARMING....:shock:
 

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One of our local Humane Societies was closed down recently for animal cruelty. 5 or 6 male works were charged. The resources of the society were used for legal aid for the workers????:lol:
 

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I donate time, not usually things. Even the local "rescue" sells everything you donate, instead of using it for the horses. I was going to send them a turnout coat that didnt fit my horses, but my friend was telling me they just sell it all on ebay or have an auction.
 

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Precisely the reason why I prefer to donate my TIME over anything; I'm even skeptical of adopting pets, after finding out that one of the shelters I had adopted from 1) didn't take in YOUNG animals, but kept hanging onto old, sick, unadoptable ones 2) was actually not conducting proper quarentine time for new animals brought in, even if they were obviously sick. Many of the cats were found to be FIP positive, by the vet clinic I was working with at the time, but they still didn't change what they were doing, and kept housing sick animals right next to healthy ones...

Now, I know this isn't what happens in alot of shelters, but this isn't the first one that I've experienced; two of the ones where I grew up were shut down a few years back, one due to abuse, and the other due to improper care\neglect of the animals.

Don't get me wrong I LOVE the idea of rescuing a pet, but after the experiences, and hearing stories over and over about shelters gone bad, I prefer to rescue from a private, small rescue, who isn't in it just for the money. Seriously 400$ for a dog or cat sometimes, from a shelter? I know they need to make ends meet somehow, but considering I know the majority of shelters have a vet that does spay\neuters for a very reduced rate, as well as vaccines for a reduced, sometimes free, rate, you can't tell me they need that much per pet. I can buy a decently bred dog for a little more than that, and I KNOW what I'm getting!
 

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HSUS is just PETA in lab coats :D

Although they did give me a ton of information about animal shelters using gas chambers... however while they don't 'apporove' this method of euthanasia they do consider it 'humane' :-|

First they say;
"The most important factor is the humaneness of the method. To be humane, every euthanasia technique must result in painless unconsciousness, followed by respiratory, and then cardiac arrest, and ultimately death."

but...
"Carbon monoxide (CO) gas is, without question, an unacceptable method of euthanasia in states where shelters can legally obtain and administer sodium pentobarbital. In those states where shelters currently cannot legally obtain and administer sodium pentobarbital or procure veterinary assistance to do so, The HSUS considers the use of CO a conditionally acceptable method of euthanasia for some animals, but only when delivered by a commercially manufactured and properly equipped and maintained chamber meeting the criteria outlined below. Only cool bottled, commercial-grade gas must be used; engine or chemically-generated gas is absolutely not acceptable due to impurities and heat, which make its use painful and inhumane."

What? It is humane or it isn't? Make up your minds... oooh thats right it depends on who the money is coming from and how much...

Oh, and this is how Gas Chambers work btw;
(this is from their own site)

"The sound of the gas entering the chamber may create fear in some animals, especially cats. They may become restless or aggressive, further stressing other animals. Because the gas does not immediately render the animals unconscious, they may appear to go through a period of resistance and dogs may vocalize or howl and become rigid. These issues further support the stance that all animal shelters using a carbon monoxide gas chamber for euthanasia should make the transition to euthanasia by injection as soon as possible.
Animals must be left in the chamber and exposed to the gas for a minimum of thirty minutes to ensure death and the chamber must be fully exhausted before animals are removed. Death must be verified for each animal prior to disposal. There are four signs that a technician should check to verify death: lack of respiration, lack of eye reflexes, lack of heartbeat, and presence of rigor mortis. Only the fourth sign, rigor mortis, is a certain sign of death. In rare instances, an animal may appear to lack respiration, eye reflexes, or a heartbeat, but still be alive."

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The HSUS Statement on Euthanasia Methods for Animals in Shelters
AnimalSheltering.org Home
 

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Unfortunately, the H$U$ is starting to be more and more like PETA. Just thought I'd throw it out there though, that generally local shelters called "humane societies" are not actually part of the H$U$.

Maybe it's just me, but when I donate to a rescue, I'm fine with them using the stuff however they need to. If they are selling something maybe it's because they couldn't use it at the time but COULD use the money it could bring in.....
 

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Seriously 400$ for a dog or cat sometimes, from a shelter?
Yeah, some dog shelters around ask that much. It always drives me so angry! I DO understand they need money to feed, fix, etc., but this amount just absolutely ridiculous.

BTW both my dogs and 2 cats out of 3 are from the rescues.
 

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GLOBAL WARMING!!!! It's the first winter of my life that I have seen -14 degree windchills, and the school had to be shut down because they couldn't keep it heated!!! It's a record cold winter...lol. I HATE IT!!! I left MI thinking I was going back to my normal temperatures and the cold followed me. ;)

HSUS...PETA...I don't help them at all. I go volunteer at the local shelter to help socialize and excercise the dogs.
 

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My sister and my BFF both had very bad experiences adopting dogs from the small private rescues -- animals were blatantly misrepresented.

In my sister's case, after she had invested thousands of dollars in vets and training trying to make it work, eventually finding that the dog was one of the rare victims of a complication of spaying that resulted in no bladder control, the rescue was awful to her when she returned the dog. The rescue then adopted the dog out again without disclosing the medical problems.

So I'm sorry for the weird digression, I know the big organizations have problems, but you have to be careful in dealing with the small orgs too. Some are well run and wonderful; some are less so.
 

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i work for a local shelter. theyre a special care and materinty shelter. they ship in dogs/cats from high kill shelters and pounds, and give them a chance with us. as well as taking in local surrenders. they never turn anyone away. theyre great and take great care of them all.

some shelters, i really cant understand how they justify charging so much to adopt. it just pushes people to buy from BYBs in turn producing MORE unwanted pets in the world. our shelter charges 150 for a puppy, and 80 for an adult dog. 50 for a kitten, 25 for a cat and 25 per kitten if you adopt more than one. all pets are spayed/neutered, up to date on shots and vet checked. they also give you a free vet visit certificte to your vet to use to get another health check done after you adopt, just in case and to make you feel better too. they also try to discourage people who are inexperienced from adopting (especially puppies/dogs) but they wont refuse as long as your application passes. and there is always the option to bring them back if something happens.

anyway, there are good shelters out there. you have to look though. and truthfully, the good shelters, are the ones that really suffer for money. because theyre actually using the funds to take care of the animals. as far as HSUS, heh... yeah right. i dont even bother with them. same with PETA. i stick to local rescues and some breed spacific rescues. as well as the shelter i work at im a member of the MAGDRL (mid atlantic great dane rescue league). but HSUS and PETA and the likes make me sick...
 

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Just a note on global warming as a lot of people don't seem to understand the issue - the entire reason that the earth actually feels like it's getting colder is due to the temperatures rising in the arctic region. This is plunging ton after ton of arctic ice into the oceans and actually causing the oceans to become cooler and thus affecting the envionment.

Now, I am not a "believer" of global warming. I think climate change goes through a process, same as it has for billions of years, long before us. I believe we have a climate change occuring, I'm just not sure I believe it's all because of us. But I just thought I'd clarify that the unseasonal chill you feel is actually consider a direct result of global warming. Whether you believe it or not is another matter, but it's considered exactly what happens when global warming occurs.
 

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I think not.
 

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Polar exploration and temp. recording has only been going on for the last 100 years or so and for teh first 50 of that it was spotty so it is hard to establish a trend with so little information.

Maybe someone should start a global warming thread.
 

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man thats depressing. makes you wonder if your helping animals by taking them to pounds or making it worse. people drop animals on us constantly and we try to find them all new homes ourselves but sometimes theres too many and we cant feed them. last week i took the first pup ever to a dog pound. i hated too but had no choice. my barn is on a property 15 minutes away and between my house and the barn we get animals dropped weekly
 
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