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i was looking through the wholesalers catalogue today (i work in the pet industry so i can order all my stuff except for hay and grain and get it wholesale) and saw this huge list of oils for feeding and i had no idea what they were all for so i thought i would see if anyone on here knows.

cod liver oil
linseed oil
maize oil
paraffin oil
rice bran oil (im assuming this one might be good for weight as i feed rice bran and it has a high fat content)
canola oil

if anyone can tell me what these oils are good for that would be great :)

thanks in advance
 

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I add just simple cheap corn oil. :) Keep coat very shiny. I'v seen the owner started to add canola oil at the barn I've been before (she added quite a lot though - half cup or so), and her youngster got all shiny in month or so.
 

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Vegetable oils or even fish oils provide a source of fat and fat helps either put on weight or provide energy. In fact, most fats provide at least twice as much digestible energy (used for all body functions) than protein. That is why a small amount of fat or oil goes a long way.

Paraffin oil is non-digestible, therefore doesn't provide anything for the body's use. It has previously been used to try to help prevent sand colic, however it's not been shown to be very effective.
 

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No expert here Jazzy but I wonder if the linseed and parafin oils are for external use. I know I have used linseed oil in different applications in woodworking so may be for hooves same with the parafin. Or possibly for use on leather goods? The cod liver I know my mom used to give it to me as a kid It always made me barf :p
 

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Vidaloco said:
No expert here Jazzy but I wonder if the linseed and parafin oils are for external use. I know I have used linseed oil in different applications in woodworking so may be for hooves same with the parafin. Or possibly for use on leather goods? The cod liver I know my mom used to give it to me as a kid It always made me barf :p
but it was under the feed supplement seection :? thats what made me assume it was for feeding :)

TheStables - ive heard a few people say about canola for weight gain and coat health now :)
 

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I have recentally been buying Corn Oil... and man, my horses have tripled there weight, and they are in top show condition. I buy mine from Boylans for $60 for 5L, and i feed three horses morning and night, and its working out very econmical.
I swear by it...
Its great stuff!! :D
 

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I have recentally been buying Corn Oil... and man, my horses have tripled there weight, and they are in top show condition. I buy mine from Boylans for $60 for 5L, and i feed three horses morning and night, and its working out very econmical.
I swear by it...
Its great stuff!! :D
is that the same as maize oil? i have a feeling maize is another word for corn but im not sure :?
 

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maize/corn same thing I think it depends on where you are standing
 

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maize/corn same thing I think it depends on where you are standing
and how the wind is blowing???? lol

i thought they were the same :) i might have to try that
 

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I have the feeling the others, linseed, paraffin and cod liver are for medicinal purposes as Ryle said above.
 

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IMO I have been giving my older horses Vegetable Oil(it is soybean oil) but it is cheaper than corn oil here. I give them 1/2 a cup with each feeding. I am also feeding Southern States Solution and Southern States Hay Stretcher as well as Rice Bran. Even my young horses are fat and sassy( HAHA) Hope that this helps.
 

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I've heard that corn oil may cause and/or contribute inflammation in some horses, but that said, it is the only thing that kept my previous horse, a very hard keeping, but otherwise healthy TB up to a healthy weight in the winter and we tried many more expensive oil and other supplemental options in addition to all the hay he could eat and large amounts of a good, complete pelleted feed.
 

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Rice bran oil does great stuff for weight gain and coat health...I gave it to my gelding after he lost weight during a difficult move :)
 

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I like all the oils! Canola, sunflower, coconut, corn, veggie, cocosoya. I've used every one of them. They all yield the same results. I like to switch every once in a while, so the horses don't get bored of one flavor.

The horse that needs the most oil (my little mare with PSSM) refuses to eat oil without huge amounts of grain and molasses mixed it. Which destroyed the point. :lol: I now use Cool Calories 100, which is basically dry vegetable oil. Oil is a pain in the butt. I use it for most of my horses that need weight just because it's cheap, it works, and most of them will eat it. Cool Calories, however, is tasty and uber feeder friendly. It doesn't get everywhere and on everything!

PS: In a healthy horse, oil's contribution to the inflammatory response negligible.

PSS: Rice bran does wonders to build lean muscle as well as weight. It's pretty expensive to feed the amount you would need to provide significant fat, however. It's only 20% fat, unlike oil, which is 100% fat.
 

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Corn oil is not a healthy choice. It is high in Omega 6 which is actually an inflammatory. Corn is also a very high NSC grain and is highly unhealthy for the equine digestive system.

There are many other much healthier options to corn oil... one being cocosoya oil.

If you have a horse who needs calories/weight, then something like alfalfa pellets is much healthier. I try to stay away from oils for the simple fact that there are healthier options.
 

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I agree that oils are not optimum, but for those of us who do strenuous activities (I was eventing with my TB) with our horses that are harder keepers/have higher metabolisms there does reach a point at which they simply won't consume any more extra hay, alfalfa pellets, beet pulp, etc. That is the point at which I would rich for the oil, Cool Calories, rice bran etc. simply as a way of providing more concentrated calories.
 

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Corn oil is not a healthy choice. It is high in Omega 6 which is actually an inflammatory. Corn is also a very high NSC grain and is highly unhealthy for the equine digestive system.

There are many other much healthier options to corn oil... one being cocosoya oil.

If you have a horse who needs calories/weight, then something like alfalfa pellets is much healthier. I try to stay away from oils for the simple fact that there are healthier options.

Corn is high in NSC. True.. But corn OIL isn't. Corn oil was recommended to me by my nutritionist, my vet, and other vets whom I have corresponded with for a horse with PSSM who tied up on grass and two pounds a day of Safe Choice. :wink: If corn oil was high NSC, my horse would have told me. :lol:

Also, while omega six is inflammatory, it isn't the amount that is important. It's not something you should cut out because it's bad. It's the balance between omega six and omega three. Omega three is found in hay and grass. Most horses achieve a sufficent balance between the two, as most horses who are fed oils may get a cup of oil a day and 15 pounds of hay and grass.
 

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Corn is high in NSC. True.. But corn OIL isn't. Corn oil was recommended to me by my nutritionist, my vet, and other vets whom I have corresponded with for a horse with PSSM who tied up on grass and two pounds a day of Safe Choice. :wink: If corn oil was high NSC, my horse would have told me. :lol:

Also, while omega six is inflammatory, it isn't the amount that is important. It's not something you should cut out because it's bad. It's the balance between omega six and omega three. Omega three is found in hay and grass. Most horses achieve a sufficent balance between the two, as most horses who are fed oils may get a cup of oil a day and 15 pounds of hay and grass.
Why was that horse on grass and safe choice? Safe choice isn't a low NSC feed.

The balance is way off in corn oil. It's cheap and easy to feed.... yes, but as I stated before there are much healthier ways to add calories.

Corn oil is one of the unhealthiest oils you can use. Soy or coconut oils are much healthier and have a better omega balance.
 

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Safe Choice is actually advertised as low starch and some people with PSSM horses (much less sensitive than mine) have found success in using small amounts (one or two pounds a day) to mix with fat supplements and make them more palpable. Therefore it was somewhat suprising that my horse tied up on that amount of grain. And grass because she was turned out 12 hours a day on a nice (too nice, apparently!) pasture. This was all before her diagnosis. Her first episode was thought to be just a random thing caused my an electrolyte inbalance or something. When it kept happening, and we connected the dots: stringhault like symptoms, on and off hind leg lameness, and muscle atrophy across her top line. PSSM. We changed her diet completely and she's quite fine now, but that's another half of the story. :wink:


But all common oils have an "off" omega balance. Corn is the most "off", but everything else isn't that far behind. So I wouldn't say much healthier. Heck, I personally prefer veggie oil. (Or cocosoya, in an idea world where it isn't way too expensive!) But I don't mind corn oil and don't think anyone who feeds it is killing their horse. I fed it for a long time (with no negative effects!), as my horse wouldn't tolerate any other kind. The lesser of two evils is at play here: skinny horse (or sick PSSM horse), or an off omega balance that you will probably never notice.
 
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