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Would anybody smack me with a broomstick if I said I found a wintec saddle that fit my mare nicely, and was looking to purchase it? I know many people dislike the banana shaped panels, but she's an odd shaped arab and they accommodate her rather nicely. It's the Isabella dressage model(something like that). I was looking at thorowgood saddles as well but I personally don't find them particularly comfortable. Should I be afraid of the wintec? Or should I go for it if it fits my mare? The only reason I'm looking into "cheaper" saddles is because I'm a highschooler in my sophomore year and I'm responsible for covering the cost of a new saddle with the little money I make working at the barn.(plus my hand me down Stubben is done for). Thanks for any advice! 馃檪
 

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If the saddle fits the horse, and you are comfortable in it...go for it.

I admit to using for my saddles, leather...
I guess that makes me a saddle snob...:|
I am not a fan of synthetics, period.
I grew up and was trained/taught when synthetic did not exist! {neither did plastic milk/water bottles either :shock:}
I have ridden in a few different synthetic saddles, some better and more comfortable for me and the horse too. They were OK, but not my choice..

Today you can spend quite a bit of money for a synthetic...with several brands to choose from.
As long as the tree is sound and fits the animals back correctly, what is seen you sit on, does it really matter?
If your budget allows synthetic then do synthetic.
Today I see synthetic in show rings often too...no not in the more advanced divisions but in beginner and basics, sure.
There is a difference in "feel" I found leather to synthetic, but you learn to compensate and adjust to what you ride.

Don't be so concerned with what others think, say or comment on.
Do what is right for you, for your horse and what you can afford to do from your earnings not mom & dad pocket-booking the purchase.
That in itself is darn special!!
You earned it, you chose it and it is what you like...then go for it!! :cool:

Now smile....:smile:
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If the saddle fits the horse, and you are comfortable in it...go for it.

I admit to using for my saddles, leather...
I guess that makes me a saddle snob...<img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://www.horseforum.com/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Neutral" class="inlineimg" />
I am not a fan of synthetics, period.
I grew up and was trained/taught when synthetic did not exist! {neither did plastic milk/water bottles either <img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://www.horseforum.com/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Shocked" class="inlineimg" />}
I have ridden in a few different synthetic saddles, some better and more comfortable for me and the horse too. They were OK, but not my choice..

Today you can spend quite a bit of money for a synthetic...with several brands to choose from.
As long as the tree is sound and fits the animals back correctly, what is seen you sit on, does it really matter?
If your budget allows synthetic then do synthetic.
Today I see synthetic in show rings often too...no not in the more advanced divisions but in beginner and basics, sure.
There is a difference in "feel" I found leather to synthetic, but you learn to compensate and adjust to what you ride.

Don't be so concerned with what others think, say or comment on.
Do what is right for you, for your horse and what you can afford to do from your earnings not mom & dad pocket-booking the purchase.
That in itself is darn special!!
You earned it, you chose it and it is what you like...then go for it!! <img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://www.horseforum.com/images/smilies/icon_cool.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Cool" class="inlineimg" />

Now smile....<img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://www.horseforum.com/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Smile" class="inlineimg" />
<img style="max-width:100%;" src="http://www.horseforum.com/images/smilies/runninghorse2.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Runninghorse2" class="inlineimg" />....
I don't think your preference for leather makes you a saddle snob, I would take quality leather over synthetic any day if my budget would allow it. Maybe if I found a really nice synthetic I could fool some people into thinking it's leather, from a distance anyway. ^_^
 

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I love Wintec saddles, they fit all my Arabs and I found them very comfy. My favorite was the stock saddle, but sold it because I wanted to start showing.
 

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My sister just got one... her first saddle was a Wintec and lasted for 20 odd years; it was always her goal to get a high quality leather saddle. With her new horse (horse # 4) she found a beautiful brown Neidersuss, saddle of her dreams, had it reflocked and fitted to her mare.

She loved it.

But once she started riding and her mare gained muscle and topline, bye bye Neidersuss. Hello Wintec #2.

She just got her second Wintec, a "Pro" I believe, and she absolutely loves it. I expect she will have it another 20 years...
 

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Nothing wrong with a saddle that fits the horse and you find it comfortable.

I prefer Wintec because:

a) I don't have access to saddle fitters or tack shops - I can fit (and refit) a Wintec saddle myself (to a large extent)
b) They are much lighter than leather saddles
c) Easy to clean

I personally feel no difference between synthetic and leather, other than synthetic being more comfortable.

As far as durability goes, I wish I rode that much to wear out any saddle.
 

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My child was given a used Wintec dressage. I ride it more than he does but we both really like it. I'd ridden in a Wintec in college too and found it fit well and was comfortable.
 

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I LOVE Wintec saddles. I've just bought a brand new one.

Yours doesn't look like an Isabell to me (at a guess I would place yours late 80's/early 90's in age and I'm fairly sure the Isabell first hit the market late 90's/early 00's), but I have owned a similar Wintec and it was a good saddle. Provided, of course, it fits your horse; the older Wintecs are commonly quite narrow and therefore not as well suited to wider types.

Between 2002 and 2012, the quality went down a little bit. I feel this is where most people who dislike them are coming from; for that decade they WERE cheaply made, though still better than extremely cheap saddles such as Kincade. My favourite Wintec I've ever owned (apart from the 2020 model Wintec 500 Close Contact I haven't yet ridden in!) was a 2012 Wintec 500 Close Contact. I loved that saddle so much that now I have a horse that suits Wintec saddles again, I deliberately bought the most similar saddle I possibly could!

EDIT; I just looked it up, the Wintec Isabell was released in 1999 and the original model looked like this:
 

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^^^ I bought a second hand but hardly used Isabell wintec in the early 00's and it is one of the most comfortable saddles I have ridden in and in 60 years of riding I have ridden in lots of saddles, including Passier, Kiefer, Stuben and many good western saddles as well.

I feel very secure in it for all kinds of riding, not just dressage but great for that as well.
Many years ago I rode in a wintec all purpose and found it good to ride in as well.
that is all the experience I've had with synthetic saddles but liked them both. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend these saddles.
 

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I bought an all purpose Wintec with interchangeable gullet & riser system for my OTTB...
Only saddle that doesn鈥檛 wreck his back! Bonus for both of us- it鈥檚 lightweight ! Saddle was $475 -
gullet
& riser system -
additional $100 ish... Love it! So does my high withered TB !
 

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Nothing wrong with Wintec if it fits the horse. I got a used Pro dressage model last year for a good price. I think it might be half a size too large because of the more open seat, but it鈥檚 a nice saddle to ride in. I might be throwing it up for sale somewhere though because I鈥檇 love to eventually try the endurance model with the funny looking thigh blocks and my current dressage saddle is a Bates Isabell, and I really like that deep deep seat.
@Idyllic_equine while you do have a Wintec, it鈥檚 not the Isabell model. It looks like it might be one of the older sports saddles based on how high up the equileather panel goes and the little flap over the stirrup bar. Hopefully it wasn鈥檛 too pricey.
 

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I鈥檇 love to eventually try the endurance model with the funny looking thigh blocks
I used to have one, they're lovely to ride in. Have to be balanced right though or the thigh blocks shove you into the cantle even in the correct seat size. If they're too low or too high in front, they become wildly uncomfortable. So do bear that in mind.

Also, I am a rider with a VERY long thigh, so someone with shorter legs might like them more or less than I do.
 

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I used to have one, they're lovely to ride in. Have to be balanced right though or the thigh blocks shove you into the cantle even in the correct seat size. If they're too low or too high in front, they become wildly uncomfortable. So do bear that in mind.

Also, I am a rider with a VERY long thigh, so someone with shorter legs might like them more or less than I do.
Did you find if they have a deep seat or not? I checked with Wintec and they said it fits more like a dressage with the flap, but the tree was more like an AP.

I鈥檝e got a long thigh myself (short torso, my height鈥檚 mainly the legs) plus, I can鈥檛 quite bend my knee the way I used to to sit comfortably in an AP saddle for very long, due to a break a few years back.
 

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Did you find if they have a deep seat or not? I checked with Wintec and they said it fits more like a dressage with the flap, but the tree was more like an AP.

I鈥檝e got a long thigh myself (short torso, my height鈥檚 mainly the legs) plus, I can鈥檛 quite bend my knee the way I used to to sit comfortably in an AP saddle for very long, due to a break a few years back.
The Bates/Wintec AP design at the moment is much more VSD anyway! Honestly, it rides like a dressage. Not the deepest seated dressage saddle I've ever sat in (as I think I've mentioned in this thread I had an Isabell for a few years!) but it does not ride like an AP at all. Other than maybe being a little easier to rise the trot in than your typical dressage saddle.

This was a Wintec 500 Wide AP, to demonstrate what I mean when I say the AP is more VSD:
 

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I think Wintecs (and Abettas) are great saddles but you might try to look for one with flocked panels because I've heard a lot of bad reviews about the Cair system in the long run. I know some people have been able to get their Cair saddles flocked by saddle fitters but a friend tried to do that and didn't have much luck here.
 

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Looks like the saddle is in great condition and if it fits the horse and is comfortable for the rider then I think that is a huge win!

My first dressage saddle was a Wintec and I always was quite comfortable in it even when other riders were not. I don't know if I'm not that picky or if I have weird shaped legs but I never ran into a problem.
 

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The Bates/Wintec AP design at the moment is much more VSD anyway! Honestly, it rides like a dressage. Not the deepest seated dressage saddle I've ever sat in (as I think I've mentioned in this thread I had an Isabell for a few years!) but it does not ride like an AP at all. Other than maybe being a little easier to rise the trot in than your typical dressage saddle.

This was a Wintec 500 Wide AP, to demonstrate what I mean when I say the AP is more VSD:
Just trying to figure out what size I鈥檇 like. I ride 17.5鈥 AP/CC, but my Wintec Pro is an 18鈥 (could probably go 17.5鈥 there too) and the Bates Isabell is an 18鈥. Smart pal used to have the Endurance Pro on a demo program, but that鈥檚 gone now.
@Idyllic_equine, sorry about your thread turning into a discussion on another saddle (but still a Wintec right :wink:) but if you can get the serial number of the saddle you鈥檙e considering buying, the Wintec company can give you all the i formation on it (make, model, year made, etc.) which will help you make an informed decision on buying it.
 
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