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I just had a photographer contact me at the end of March. He said he had read my modeling profile and was interested in doing a shoot that included my horse and was wondering if she had any limitations.

I replied that I was interested and the only limitations were no western themes and no nudity. No western themes because she's trained as an English pleasure horse and the western seat gives me severe pain in the damages nerves in the base of my spine (car accident when I was little).

He came back at me basically telling me how English riding/tack was useless for any "quality" images and told me to "take better care of yourself and you can be a real rider in a real western saddle".

:shock:wow some people just amaze me with their close mindedness.

I sent his emails to the moderators of the site for review and didn't respond back to him. But his email kind of ticked me. First of all, I've always ridden English and I've always preferred English. I only realized I couldn't ride western at all (after the accident) during a camp that only had western tack. I was send home and confined to a bed for a week because of the pain and it's basically doctors orders to stay out of a western saddle. Secondly, the car accident wasn't my fault, I was asleep in the backseat when I was 10 years old and we were rear ended by one of those big boxy moving truck looking trucks not the semi's but the one piece big haulers.

I went through my profile and noted that it even said Caleigh and I were not available for western themes. That tells me the photographer didn't bother to read past "I own a Clydesdale mare that is available for shoots". Out of all the shoots I've done with horses even before I bought Caleigh it has never been a problem that I only ride English or bareback. I really wonder why he flew off the handle. I've bolded the importance of not riding western now so if anyone skips over piece of my hiring profile they'll hopefully at least read the bold bits.

Sorry just had to get it off my chest, it was bugging me a bit.
 

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That's just silly! I would think that you'd be able to get more quality shots by being english anyway since that looks more natural and sophisticated, in my mind at least! Goodness, some people just need a smack upside the head. :lol: But whatevs, if he was that irritable and rude about your inability to ride in a western saddle, he probably would have been a yucky person to work with. It sounds like you're better off without him. For sure.
 

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yeah, I'm pretty picky about who I work with. They have to have positive feedback from the models I contact through the photographers previous work. I'm on a general modeling site and in my profile it says my animals are available to be in shoots and the limitations are no western or nudity. I actually normally get photographers asking me if I have those fancy English show outfits with chaps and the whole look. I have to say "sorry I don't but I could put together a really neat different outfit". It's getting to where I should probably buy some because it's a common request.

The only other photographer who asked me if she could go western asked if bareback was an option, he just didn't want english tack so I threw a leather halter on her, some cloth reins and rode bareback. She did fine sadly he didn't give me my pictures and "conveniently" disappeared off the site about 2 weeks later.
I'm just surprised this guy made such a big deal out of it. I guess he really really wanted a western horse...oops not my fault he didn't read my whole animal section.
 

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That's totally stupid! Hell, if anything the english riders are the "real" riders...
I've recently pretty much switched back to riding western after doing western for years and trying english out for awhile..it truly gave me a new respect for it, those saddles definitely aren't helping keep you all on your horses at all! I found it to require a lot more skill and the horses a lot more intelligent and challenging.
That guy's a moron. English tack is better-looking anyway :p
 

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That's totally stupid! Hell, if anything the english riders are the "real" riders...
I've recently pretty much switched back to riding western after doing western for years and trying english out for awhile..it truly gave me a new respect for it, those saddles definitely aren't helping keep you all on your horses at all! I found it to require a lot more skill and the horses a lot more intelligent and challenging.
That guy's a moron. English tack is better-looking anyway :p
Whoa slow down, western rider here, and that just totally offended.
 

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If read more closely you would see that I am one as well and have been my whole life..
I feel I have the right to poke a little bit of fun :wink:
 

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hahahahahahahahhaahhahahahahahahahahahahahaha. SORRY. over now XD
 

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well, as a photographer myself, all I can say is that if he can't get 'quality' images shooting someone with English tack, then he's a pretty poor photographer!! What an idiot.

I'd love to ride in a Western saddle because it looks so **** comfortable and really secure. Rocky Pony, you're right about English saddles not doing much to keep you in them - they don't. It's all too easy to go piling off the front of them (a friend of a friend recently landed on the pommel of her English saddle and split her pubic bone, it took her two hours to get off the horse)

From a photographic point, Western and English tack both have their merits - Western looks so very, very cool and English tack is just so effortlessly elegant and classy. I'd happily photograph both and the posibilities with each of them are endless.

Drafts4ever, if I ever make it over to Washington, I'd happily do a shoot with you, lol
 

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What a stupid thing to say. I think English tack and attire is more attractive. Quality photography should have nothing to do with what the image contains but how a photographer captures it. You can take a good photo of something ugly ;) NOT saying YOUR ugly or western tack is, just saying. He could of just said he wanted a western theme and didn't realize you wouldn't be available for it, geez.
 

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That is absolutely ridiculous. I think (and this is coming from someone who rides BOTH western and english) that english takes more work to be secure while riding. The only reason I prefer english over western is because I feel more secure in an english saddle because I'm working harder to MAKE myself secure, in a western saddle you don't HAVE to do that and I think I slack on it a bit. I love both english and western! I don't think a western rider is better than an english rider or vice versa. People are idiots. And I agree with whoever said he NEEDS a western saddle for a good quality picture means he must be a crappy photographer LOL
 

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Neither takes more or less courage, or is harder than the another, because in either situation you're putting yourself on the back of a half-ton animal who could do any given thing at any given moment.
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I take it this photographer has never really been on the back of a horse...?

English saddle is definitely more of a challenge than Western saddle.

As for the whole "real riders" debate... in my opinion, nobody can call themselves a "real" rider (whatever that means) until they've gone down a big, almost 90-degree hill on a trail out in the woods — that really puts all your skills to the test!
 

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if there was a 'real way of riding' it would be bareback without any headcollar or anything. but sometimes that isn't practical, in my opinion neither westen or english, is any better or worse than the other.

mind you i have never actualy ridden western.
 

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I ride in English tack and always have. I tried Western and decided it just wasn't for me. Doesn't mean either type of riding is 'better' than the other, it's just what you feel most comfortable doing.

Having learned a balanced seat while using English tack, that's what I prefer. Western just doesn't feel right to me, but if that's the only tack available I'll use it.

You learn best what you learn first, that's all.

Both of the tack styles have their own appeal.

English tack is elegant and understated; more of an accessory than something that screams, 'look at me!!!' Even the bling is kept to a bare minimum, which just underscores the simplicity of design.

Western tack now, that's a whole lotta bling, and I have to say I absolutely adore all those stones, the silver, and the colored seats and outfits. None of those things would work with English tack, but with Western it all fits. As far as I'm concerned, the blingier the tack and outfit, the better! :wink:

Even the most simple Western tack is still showier than the English. I don't want to ride in it, but I sure like looking at it. :D
 

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wow thats soo lame. My boyfriend is a photographer and he be like pshh that guys a poor photographer.. my boyfriend is gonna be doing photos of me and my horse and I ride english.
 
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