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post #1 of 22 Old 09-16-2020, 02:52 PM Thread Starter
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Trail Ride Nightmare Come True

Good afternoon all!

So my little barn family, 6 of us in total, like to go on a leisurely trail ride once a week or so. I mean walking down the road to the well marked trails and enjoying each other's company, horses all dolled up in their Sunday best blingy browbands and gaudy saddle pads. We are all experienced horse people, thank god, but last time came upon a ground nest of bees.

One of the horses must have stepped on it, because before we knew what was going on the four horses in the back were getting stung all over. Kicking, rearing, spinning around each other on a narrow trail. One horse and rider went down on top of the nest. Our leisurely hack totally turned into a nightmare.

We have contacted the town, and they say they will deal with it, but we are still worried. Is this normal for this time of year? Is there any way to spot a ground nest before being on top of it? We'd love to keep going out, but now we're well put off the idea of going out any time soon.

Any advice would be very appreciated!

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post #2 of 22 Old 09-16-2020, 03:16 PM
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I got into the 'bees' (actually hornets). about this time, last year. we were hand grazing and the horses went berzerk. It was a wild west circus. very dangerous, as we were near a road.


you can look down and sometimes see them coming and going from the nest hole, but really, there's no guarantee. Fall is when they are insanely aggressive. If you do get into them, the horses behind the one that actually hits the nest will get it the worst. the best advice is let them run forward, hang and keep them moving. less bucking happens that way.
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post #3 of 22 Old 09-16-2020, 03:36 PM
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As Tiny Liny says, this is the time of year when they become very aggressive. You've got to just keep your eyes open and let em run if you get into them.

Can you walk the trails ahead of time to make sure there isn't another nest somewhere else?
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post #4 of 22 Old 09-16-2020, 03:54 PM
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Fall and try weather usually brings the ground bees out. In general the first couple of horse pass without trouble but the more horses the more the bees get mad and attack. There really is no way to tell unless you see some bees flying around a small hole in the ground. They like the looser soil
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post #5 of 22 Old 09-16-2020, 04:03 PM
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Fall and try weather usually brings the ground bees out. In general the first couple of horse pass without trouble but the more horses the more the bees get mad and attack. There really is no way to tell unless you see some bees flying around a small hole in the ground. They like the looser soil
^^^^Sums it up nicely:)

Generally itís horse #4 and behind, that end up getting swarmed.

And as @weedlady alluded to, unless someone goes out ahead, either walking, on a dirt bike, 4-wheeler, etc., thereís no way to know where the ground bees are. Even then, only one pass by any of the above still may not stir them up like the continued pounding of horseís hooves.

Weíve all been there, to some getting stung degree or another.

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I CAN'T ride 'em n slide 'em. I HAVE to lead 'em n feed 'em Thnx cowchick77.
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post #6 of 22 Old 09-16-2020, 05:05 PM
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Yep fall time of year is ground hornet time. Here they tend to be on the grass trails that aren't well traveled. Gotta keep horses moving forward, and get the heck outta dodge.

Sometimes easier said then done when horses turn into broncing spinning rodeo horses.
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post #7 of 22 Old 09-16-2020, 05:15 PM
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We had a nest of ground hornets here. About a year ago this friend/neighbor comes over and we're down at the spring. Now this fellow is short and "rotund".
We're talking when all at once I thought he had lost his mind. He's doing somersaults, rolling, flips, etc. Then I see the hornets. He freaks out...I got stung twice...no big deal. I walked down to the creek and made a jewel weed&mud poltice. That took sting away immediately. That evening I poured some gasoline down hole which killed them.
About 40 years ago my wife and her friend rode two of Dad's horses when one horse threw her friend breaking her arm...horse stepped on a ground hornet nest. Dad's insurance paid for the girl's hospital bill.
I'm wondering if a good lead dog would work? Maybe it could warn you guys of danger ahead?
Snakes, animals, that's one thing. Bees, wow, that's a tough one! If you knew someone with a tractor with a cab would be great...

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post #8 of 22 Old 09-16-2020, 05:36 PM
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@Fuddyduddy1952 Yes to the Jewelweed poultice! Except I didnít know it would work on bee stings:)

I have a bar of red clay soap with jewel weed in it, for poison Ivy , oak, and sumac. Works like a charm on that stuff too!

I had one property that was a ground bee haven.

One year the entire left rear wheel of my lawn tractor fell in hole they had cleaned out and abandoned.

Another year, I was using the push mower over a rotting tree stump and I got them REALLY tissues off at me. I counted ten stings and figured I got lucky with feeling,nothing worse than I would have after shooting two doubles of Jack Daniels, lollol. That year they completely covered my push mower until finally my son was able to retrieve it at one in the morning, lollll

I like the gasoline-down-the- hole, except I used to roll up a piece of news paper, light the end, and push it down the hole - well after dark:):)
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I CAN'T ride 'em n slide 'em. I HAVE to lead 'em n feed 'em Thnx cowchick77.
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post #9 of 22 Old 09-16-2020, 07:33 PM
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Those bees are still right there. What I would do is get a big can of hornet spray. Walk until you are in the general area. Then spray the whole can in the hole. You can also pour gasoline or diesel fuel down the hole and set it on fire. The gasoline is so explosive that it is really dangerous.

Until it is gone, I would go a different way. There is one other problem. Those horses are going to remember that there is a stinging monster in that area. They may not want to go that way and give you trouble.

I hate bees.

Edit: My husband, who has been dealing with these things for all his life just said that if you can find the nest during the day and put something on it to mark it, they will all be in the nest at night. Go back with flashlights and fill the hole with gasoline. You don't have to light it on fire. It will kill them very dead.

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post #10 of 22 Old 09-16-2020, 07:38 PM
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Iím glad Iím not the only one who thinks itís ok to blow them up

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I CAN'T ride 'em n slide 'em. I HAVE to lead 'em n feed 'em Thnx cowchick77.
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