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post #1 of 6 Old 07-02-2020, 05:24 PM Thread Starter
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Help Evaluating Horses for Purchase

Hi, I am looking for a 2-3 year old APHA or AQHA as an all around prospect and HUS/WP. I have a budget of 6-8k and will be working on the training mostly myself and trailering for professional help a few times a month.

I have several I am interested in and have videos for but need some help distinguishing the best movement and trainability for what Iím looking for. Any help evaluating these is helpful and will help me zero in on, or pass up other ones that may come up!

1. https://youtu.be/kBYa7RRUWRs 3yo AQHA mare

2. https://youtu.be/suE6Qj_PVhI 3yo AQHA

3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMLGgTKW--Q 2 yr old gelding

4. 2 year old APHA gelding:
https://youtu.be/kWVjCPf9Ogg
https://youtu.be/iLVFYIlVI1E
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post #2 of 6 Old 07-02-2020, 11:34 PM
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1. I like her a lot. She isn't constantly being nagged with spurs, and for the most part, she is just being left alone to do her thing. I like that she is moving uphill, rather than just dragging along her on her forehand. You can tell the sellers took the time to present her in the sale video, which I appreciate as well. She looks like only one horse, not a bunch of random horses stuck together, and looks very well kept. I like her.

2. I was bored watching him. I'm suspicious of something going on in his back end, potentially soundness issues. Pass.

3. I was also bored watching this one. He's okay - he could mature into something really nice, but right now he is in the ugly 2 year old stage. I can't stop looking at his little neck, wondering if it will ever fill out to match his body. At 1:20 in the video, watch until he goes over the pole. As soon as he's over it, he hops quickly right afterwards. It could be a baby thing, or he could be hurting someplace. It looked like the same thing happened at 2:15 with the pole as well.

4. Hard pass. My first thoughts was 'wow, he doesn't look 2' and 'wow, he looks lame, or close to it'. I just don't like the way he is moving, and especially when he approaches the person filming, his head wags side to side. Even from the video, his conformation throughout his back and hind end looks really wonky. Not a huge fan of his canter or trot.

If I were the one shopping, I would go look at 1 first, and also look at 3. I just didn't care for 2, and wouldn't even waste my time looking at 4. I will always be more interested in horses that are for sale underneath sellers that clearly know how to sell a horse and make it look good, and 1 really accomplished that for me. The others all look like the horses were pulled from the pasture and video'd in a poorly lit barn.

I'm sure others will have more to offer, but I like 1 the best!

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post #3 of 6 Old 07-03-2020, 08:38 AM
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What I watched...
#4...no
#3. that hindend..something is up with the left hind.
#2...sorry that super short hind striding, and the animal moves like it hurts.

#1... better than the others and has more polish but..
If you go see the horse tell them to take the tail extension off and or you would appreciate the tail braided so not interfering with seeing hind end and leg movement..
Every once in a while there is a hiccup step and sure enough the tail is distracting the eye to seeing/catching it.
If serious about her, she would be vetted by one sharp specialist from tip of ear to bottom of hoof and everything in between along with a full blood workup...nothing left un-examined.

She's cute...but worth $7,500 as she stands, not sure of that...
Price based on the accolades of her pedigree only.
I saw nothing she has done and at the time of March 20 she had only 45 rides on her...she's been no place and no record to backup claims of nothing bothers her...for that price she should of been hauled to do something in a show ring since she was eligible a long time ago.
Start that show record...
I did look on allbreedpedigree, general listing of all and specific quarter horse based and she is not listed, no recognition of her at all.
14 weeks ago some interest and chatter on their Facebook page, then near nothing till 3 days ago makes me
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jmo..sorry.

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post #4 of 6 Old 07-03-2020, 03:53 PM
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I watched all but the #1 video only briefly. #1 is your horse!


This mare is physically well balanced, has both a nice trot and nice canter, and is tolerant. I think she is the best.


#2 and #3 looked off in the hind end.




#4 on the lunge might be ok.


IT all depends if you are trying to get that 'hand dog, broke to the bones, tired, heavy on the forehand, dead inside at 3 years old' look that I find most of the winning WP horses seem to have.


Please, if you get this pretty mare, do not snap the reins at her, incessantly, trying to get her to break her head, drop it or tuck her nose back behind the vertical. She is perfect where she is. Be the NEW WP rider, who treats his horse right, and doesn't kill all the forward and 'pleasure' out of them.
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post #5 of 6 Old 07-03-2020, 04:57 PM
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On video, #1
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post #6 of 6 Old 07-04-2020, 07:02 AM
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#1 is off in her hind end. She's dragging both toes, short striding (worse on the right) and not tracking up. Can't pinpoint it any closer due to tail hiding her legs moving away. She appears to be trying to wring her tail some in the video, more at the beginning less at the end, another sign she may be sore back there. Definitely would want a THOROUGH PPE on her before purchase, possibly a chiropractor to try to adjust whatever is ailing her. Xrays and ultrasound on all 4 legs/feet, possibly more if chiro recommened it. I'd be worried about long term soundness, since she's only 3 now.

#2 Meh

#3 More Meh. That super steep croup would put me off before I even got on.

#4 Nope. Really not a nice mover. Acts like he's sore in all 4.

IMO #1 is the best of the bunch but ....... I have some strong reservations. NONE of them is worth $7500 (or at least not to me. I can buy horses like that for less than $3500 here, frequently a LOT more broke and accomplished.) I'd keep looking. None of them is what I'd call a good mover.


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