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post #1 of 23 Old 11-11-2018, 06:04 PM Thread Starter
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Exclamation Cheap Tough 1 saddle too good to be true?

Hi guys! I have been riding for quite a number of years and the possibility of me becoming a horse owner has arisen. I have ridden English and recently started riding western for fun and really enjoyed it. I have been looking for cheap western saddles that would be good for trail rides and just easy riding in general. I don't plan on doing barrels or anything like that. I came across this Tough 1 Western saddle : https://www.statelinetack.com/item/t...yABEgLH8fD_BwE
It's super cheap and comes with a cinch, saddle, bridle and saddle pad. Does this seem like a good thing for me to buy or would it make more sense for me to buy a more expensive saddle that would last me longer?

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post #2 of 23 Old 11-11-2018, 06:13 PM
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First lesson, any thing new that is a package for Western is not worth it. They are poor quality, the best that will happen is that they will fall apart. The worst is that they will hurt your horse, your horse will freak and kill you!

Seriously these are cheap, and not value for money. The best thing to do is to buy an older recognized brand, rather than a cheap package.

Their are lots of brands out there, if you know your size, the type you want, and your budget, then we would be happy to show you some examples of good buys.

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First lesson, any thing new that is a package for Western is not worth it. They are poor quality, the best that will happen is that they will fall apart. The worst is that they will hurt your horse, your horse will freak and kill you!

Seriously these are cheap, and not value for money. The best thing to do is to buy an older recognized brand, rather than a cheap package.

Their are lots of brands out there, if you know your size, the type you want, and your budget, then we would be happy to show you some examples of good buys.
In your opinion is it best not to have a budget and to just get the best possible saddle for you and your horse?
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post #4 of 23 Old 11-11-2018, 06:24 PM
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look everyone always says go with the best.. spend a ton on the saddle.. I have a king series saddle, it was cheap, it had a 5 year warranty on it, and I decided if I stuck with it I would buy better.. the saddle has held up super well, is lightweight, and my horse has never had back pain or soreness/ white patches etc. I did invest in a quality pad though. I had my custom headstall and breast collar made to match it, my downfall is in the 5 years ive been riding in it, the cushon on my seat is flat so its not super comfy for me anymore. If your starting off you could go that route, but if it doesn't fit your horse well it won't be worth it in the long run, quality wise nothing has broken or worse out, even the felt on the bottom looks good
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post #5 of 23 Old 11-11-2018, 06:51 PM
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Hi! So I've never had any experience with that particular saddle, but i will say that yes most people will tell you to buy a good brand, spend tons etc. But I did buy a cheaper saddle that everyone says is a piece of trash. It's a THSL saddle, and most people say they are junk. They may be cheaper, but this saddle has held up for the 6 years that I've had it, zero problems. Plus I ride 3+ hours in it everyday, and it is still great. My thing with buying a cheaper saddle, is make sure it's not synthetic leather, get real leather that makes a big difference and helps them last better. If you're looking for a nice looking cheaper saddle that comes with everything (headstall, cinch, breast color, ) you might wanna check out the THSL.
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post #6 of 23 Old 11-11-2018, 07:03 PM
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You don't need an expensive saddle, you need a quality saddle. Those package saddles usually are cheaply made, don't fit any horse, and some can have screws or bolts that stick out and dig into the horse's back. I've bought a $1100 new saddle. Never really fit that great. Wasn't super happy with it. My current saddle was bought for $75 off Ebay. It fits great and is good quality, if not a little hard to look at. It was built in the 80's.

You don't need to disregard your budget, it means you might need to look a little longer. Lots of quality, older, used saddles fall into the $500 range.
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post #7 of 23 Old 11-11-2018, 07:18 PM
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That looked like a synthetic saddle, and I hate all of them except some Wintec ones. Even though the Wintec English saddle I have only fits my gelding and rubs my legs really badly. I have this piece of garbage saddle that I picked up cheap from somewhere and it's falling apart. I'll just cut what small amount of leather that's on there off and use it to repair other things.


Cheap saddles vary. I have two saddles that I got for $50 each. Both don't have a brand stamp on them or anything. Now, one of them is the best adult-sized saddle my gelding can use. The other, though it's beat up and ugly, fits my mare like a glove. Sometimes you get lucky, but more often than not you don't, especially if it's a sight unseen. Now, if you can go to a tack swap and take your horse and try on some cheaper saddles, you might find something good. But it's a general rule of thumb to stay away from cheap synthetics. They rot, break, change shape and fit over time, and just aren't worth it.


I hear Abetta makes synthetic stuff which will be cheaper than leather. Might be worth looking into. Still, unless you can find a used leather one (I got one for $200 from a friend) that'll probably always be better. I'd still expect to spend at least $500 on a decent synthetic saddle.
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post #8 of 23 Old 11-11-2018, 07:23 PM
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You do not want a King/Tough 1 saddle. It won't fit you and won't fit the horse. Spend your money on a quality older used saddle and you will have much better luck.
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post #9 of 23 Old 11-11-2018, 07:29 PM
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In your opinion is it best not to have a budget and to just get the best possible saddle for you and your horse?
Well no, we all have our own budget, then we have to do the best that we can within that budget.

One way to save is to look at good quality synthetic, Wintec comes to mind, decent range of well made saddles, and for various shapes of horse.

The way most of us do it is just to scour all the second hand places, close by if needed, so you can actually check the fit, or online, if you don’t mind the hassle of possibly buying and selling a few until you do get one that fits both horse and rider.

Again, the cheap imports are usually made of inferior leather, the trees can crack, investors seen them with bolt heads potruding. The metal work is of poor quality and many reports of it breaking under stress, the last thing you need is a horse bucking and something breaking on you. Last thing, fit....these cheap saddles can vary in fit, and can easily make a horse sore. Yes there are those who will tell you that they “got away with it” ask yourself do you want to take the risk?




ETA. Found it read this https://www.horseforum.com/horse-tac...3/#post1874829
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Another important thing is to buy the horse FIRST, then buy a saddle that fits the two of you. Once you get the horse, feel free to post some conformation pictures and we can help guide you towards certain brands or styles of Western saddles that may help direct your shopping. Be prepared for lots of saddle trying! It's often the hardest and most frustrating part of new horse ownership. It's also the reason most of us have multiple saddles. The saddle you find may not fit once the horse gains muscle, mature, ages, loses topline, etc.
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