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post #31 of 69 Old 01-13-2020, 10:01 AM
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post #32 of 69 Old 01-13-2020, 11:38 AM
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Seconds count when you are confronted with a animal meaning to take you down.


I've seen quite a few wild animals out riding and never felt threatened by ANY of them. Could it happen, sure. But I'm much more likely to die of cancer or a car wreck. I think the risk of wild animals is wayyyyyyyyy over-rated.
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You've never ran up on wild hogs have you? They don't take a lot of time to threat assess - they have horrible vision, but excellent sense of sight and smell - and if they think you're there to threaten them or their piglets, they'll attack first, ask questions later. They're getting brave enough to kill people in their own front yards now and I've had a boar square off with me and Trigger on the trail. I was really wishing I'd taken my husband's advice and carried my shotgun that day.

When my husband rides with me, he brings his Judge pistol. He wants me to start riding with my 12 gauge loaded with slugs - specifically for hogs.


In my area, both the ranch workers aka cowboys, and the trail riders, are usually carrying, simply because of the hogs. Big predators like coyotes, big cats like mountain lions, and bears are still too shy and in too few a number to jump a horse and rider. Hogs are a whole 'nuther story.


Aside from that... the ladies I ride with are always packing. I have my 12 gauge in my trailer... because we're not going to be attacked by anyone, or anything, in camp or on the trail without some serious retaliation. I'd rather have it with me and not need it, than need it and not have it.
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post #34 of 69 Old 01-13-2020, 12:27 PM
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Ever see true grit?? The 1847 colt walker she carrys in a bag is a "hog leg"
A large caliber and long barrel. A very large pistol.

Then there are Horse Pistols. a large pistol carried at the pommel of the saddle by a rider.

A mares leg is a lever action rifle with the stock cut off after the lever and a barrel shorter than 16 inches. It is classified as a lever-action pistol. The latest one I have seen is made by Henry Rifle Co. and is a .410 gauge. So you basically have a .410 shotgun. and can shot any .410 ammo from bird shot to slugs to defensive loads that have flat copper discs and bird shot in one shell.

The price of .410 shells is more expensive than 12 gauge shells. almost double here.

Also a gun that did not exist at all until Steve McQueen asked to have it made for a film and from what I understand, in reality, is not practical at all.

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Also a gun that did not exist at all until Steve McQueen asked to have it made for a film and from what I understand, in reality, is not practical at all.
I was watching the show yesterday and wondered how exactly he could be so fast with that thing...there's no way. Its probably one of those "cool" weapons that look good but are really dumb when it comes to actually using them.

Now the Rifleman on the other hand...I wonder if his gun would be practical? It still wouldn't be as fast as a pistol in real life probably.
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I was watching the show yesterday and wondered how exactly he could be so fast with that thing...there's no way. Its probably one of those "cool" weapons that look good but are really dumb when it comes to actually using them.

Now the Rifleman on the other hand...I wonder if his gun would be practical? It still wouldn't be as fast as a pistol in real life probably.

I've kinda read up on them Mare's Legs... most forums where people have actually owned or used one say there's absolutely no reason to have one, other than Because it's Cool. It's no faster than a pistol to draw and shoot, and may in fact be SLOWER... and frankly, personally, if I wanted a gun that's cut down to a nub from the original, it's not going to be a rifle (because a pistol would be more practical) Gimme a sawed off scattah gun. (Scatter gun... aka shotgun).
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The sheepherders on my friend's ranch in Utah insisted on being issued rifles after a cougar jumped and cut up a couple of their horses one night.
In spite of the Cowboy Andy book author's not liking guns, and association of them with criminal elements, I bet at least 75% of all cattlemen, farmers and sheepmen in America have at least one rifle, handgun or shotgun. The woman who wrote that fiction kiddie book probably watched too many cowboy films and associated guns with pistol dueling, bank robberies, stagecoach robberies, train robberies and gunfights.

I can't fancy any agrarian (rustic) in America to be not armed and I'm all in favor of being armed for law-abiding purposes.

Cowboys, guns, ten-gallon hats, high-heeled pointed boots, chaps, silver spurs, horses, rotgut and rattlesnakes seem to all go together.

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Why would they do that? If a cowboy can get water into a hat, a horse can reach down and get it. Letting a horse drink from onees hat does not happen.

an act of love? :) To share water from their bottles with the horse? I don't know? I read this once in a book and I found it romantic
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In spite of the Cowboy Andy book author's not liking guns, and association of them with criminal elements, I bet at least 75% of all cattlemen, farmers and sheepmen in America have at least one rifle, handgun or shotgun. The woman who wrote that fiction kiddie book probably watched too many cowboy films and associated guns with pistol dueling, bank robberies, stagecoach robberies, train robberies and gunfights.

I can't fancy any agrarian (rustic) in America to be not armed and I'm all in favor of being armed for law-abiding purposes.

Cowboys, guns, ten-gallon hats, high-heeled pointed boots, chaps, silver spurs, horses, rotgut and rattlesnakes seem to all go together.
That may be true, I think many people have a warped sense of what those things are and how people live thanks to books and movies. Some of the worst come from Hallmark type movies. Literally unwatchable.

Like everything else, real life is a lot more complicated.
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post #40 of 69 Old 01-13-2020, 01:44 PM
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Cowboys, spaghetti westerns, guns, ten-gallon hats, high-heeled pointed boots, chaps, silver spurs, horses, rotgut and rattlesnakes seem to all go together.

Honestly the only laughable thing about that list, around here, is the big silly cowboy hats and the ridiculous fancy boots...



Side note: There's LOT of westerns from the 50s, 60s, even up into the 90s... that show cowboys riding on modern roping saddles that were current to the era the film was made in, rather than being historically accurate, or even close to accurate. They didn't even try - mostly because the budget for the film just wasn't there.



I always get a kick out of seeing films that feature ancient Greeks or Romans riding with stirrups or modern snaffle bits.
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