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post #1 of 30 Old 07-17-2020, 02:34 PM Thread Starter
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Saddle fit on a round, downhill horse

Once we got Duke, I had to buy a saddle that fit him and I though it did pretty close. But how do i know that it really fits?

I put close to 200km in this saddle and he seems comfortable. There is enough clearance for the withers, and when I put my hand underneath, it seems there’s even pressure all the way from front to back. No pressure on top of the spine.
The reason I’m questioning fit, is that when my husband rode in it, I think it put too much pressure around the shoulders. He weighs around 210lbs, to my 130lbs. The ride was 9kms, took around 2 hrs. As soon as my husband got on, Duke just wanted to go, fast walk, jig and just a lot of go go go. Wanting to go at a faster speed.
Anyhow the saddle seemed to sit alright so we continued on. This fast paced, sweat inducing pace lasted about the first 4-4.5 kms after which on the way back, he slowed down to more or less a regular walk. And that’s how we finished the ride. Duke tried to trot a few times, but was kept at a walk. Once I pulled the saddle off and checked, there were no dry spots anywhere and no ruffled hair.

I also ran my hands down from his shoulders down his spine 2 days after the ride and he seemed unconcerned. So no soreness that I could find.

My question is how do I know If this saddle really fits? My concern is when I ride, I don’t put enough weight in it to make duke uncomfortable, but when my husband gets on, the extra weight digs in and shows that it doesn’t fit?

Here’s a few pics right after I took the saddle off. And also with the saddle on. I searched my my photos and couldn’t find ones where it was a side profile with just the saddle. So these are the best I could do until I go out and try and saddle next time.

What do you think? He is a big horse with a round barrel and slight downhill build.
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post #2 of 30 Old 07-17-2020, 03:14 PM
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I started this thread, which might help you:

https://www.horseforum.com/saddle-fi...nt-fit-816051/

For me personally, I compared how Pony went bareback with how he went in a saddle. I have to say, he's always gone better bareback, but with the most recent saddle I got (and which fits, yay!), the difference was not too noticeable. With the other saddles, it was quite noticeable.
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post #3 of 30 Old 07-17-2020, 04:03 PM
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There are no dry spots if there where that is a pressure point. If there's pressure it's to tight so no sweat happens. I had this happen on my horse, when saddle was to narrow across his shoulders.

Boy is Duke a big boy, would be a comfy ride bareback.
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post #4 of 30 Old 07-17-2020, 06:10 PM
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Looks like it fits pretty good but, the saddle pad is too far forward. There should be an equal distance out front of the saddle matching the distance at the back.
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To expand on the saddle pad location...
Aside from the pad is not centered under the saddle...
If you tented the pad, that is pulled the saddle pad up into the saddle gullet you did not do that high enough..
Looking at your saddle pad it is sitting flat, as tight as it can be at a point on the wither that is very, very sensitive to the animal.
Now add your husbands considerably more weight in the saddle pressing down the saddle, the pad and exerting pressure to that sensitive location and I can well imagine your horse trying to do what it could do rid itself of that ouch.
Your are very lucky you did not open a sore in that location honestly imo.
The reason I say this is my friend did the same thing, no one caught the issue till we removed the saddle and found a rub mark which days later opened to a serious sore and proved troublesome to heal and stay healed.
Please be very careful of the saddle placement and pad being pulled high enough to release the wither from being injured.
just some information you wish to not learn firsthand...
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To expand on the saddle pad location...
Aside from the pad is not centered under the saddle...
If you tented the pad, that is pulled the saddle pad up into the saddle gullet you did not do that high enough..
Looking at your saddle pad it is sitting flat, as tight as it can be at a point on the wither that is very, very sensitive to the animal.
Now add your husbands considerably more weight in the saddle pressing down the saddle, the pad and exerting pressure to that sensitive location and I can well imagine your horse trying to do what it could do rid itself of that ouch.
Your are very lucky you did not open a sore in that location honestly imo.
The reason I say this is my friend did the same thing, no one caught the issue till we removed the saddle and found a rub mark which days later opened to a serious sore and proved troublesome to heal and stay healed.
Please be very careful of the saddle placement and pad being pulled high enough to release the wither from being injured.
just some information you wish to not learn firsthand...
...
I also like the front cinch farther back, about 3 fingers behind the front arm pits and skin folds. It will help prevent rubbing , pinching and irritation.
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Thanks everyone! It’s amazing how little things can be missed. I didn’t know that the saddle pad needed to be equal front and back. Is there a reason to that?

I always pull the pad up as far into the gullet as it will go but it eventually works it’s way down. If I see it’s flat against I usually pull it back out. Also this saddle pad has a cut out for the withers.

I often find myself leaning to one side and have to keep readjusting the saddle to keep it centred on Duke, the pad will sometimes move so much that it will be way off centre and I have to remove the whole saddle to fix it. I don’t know if My one leg is shorter than the other or I’m just sitting crooked. If I take my feet out of the stirrups then I feel centered as I don’t rely on them.

And yes Duke is a comfy ride bareback. I rode with a bareback pad in the winter to keep warm.

I also have the option of a second rigging ring. So I think I’ll try to put the girth on that second one to see if it will move the girth away from the arm pit.
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I don't think that just becasue the horse was anxious to move out it is any indicattion that the saddle doesn't fit. the sweat pattern indicates an even fit, and in the photos, there is nothing glaringly wrong.


I will say that you are so small, for that large of a saddle. It ends up having you too far behind the center of the saddle, resulting in your pelvis tipping forward, and your leg pushing out in front of you.


I would recommend three things, if I may be so bold:


1. Use a better quality , wool saddle pad. you will experience less sliding. That saddle pad is a POJ (piece of junk).


2. Look into a 'seat shrinker' from Cashel, because that saddle seat is too big for you. It will help you fit that saddle better, yet is removable for when your husband rides Duke


3. Put Duke on a diet. I know he may be a Kiger, and an easy keeper, but he is PHAT!!!


I hope I have not been too bold.
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@tinyliny you’re not too bold 😉. I appreciate the honesty as I’m trying to figure out what’s causing some of the concerns. I went through a lot of saddles from really bad fitting to ok that if I have any behaviour quirks I tend to jump on the illl fitting tack band right away.

I’m glad that it looks like the saddle fits. That’s what I thought too.

It is slightly big for me, although I’m riding in only two of those pics, the others are my nieces and one of my daughter.

What saddle pads would you recommend and why? Im not opposed to upgrading to something different, although these are are pretty new, within the last year.

I agree that Duke needs to shed some pounds. That’s very tricky though, as we don’t live on the farm, my parents do. And with young kids that means they help a lot with the caretaking. So I can’t ask them to do more than they already are. So things like grazing muzzles are out. The other horse needs all the weight he can get. And I only have to the two horses. If I separate them then the older guy will have a heart attack and lose more condition. So that really only leaves me with exercise, which I try to get in as much as possible, but alas that’s not always easy
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Thanks everyone! Itís amazing how little things can be missed. I didnít know that the saddle pad needed to be equal front and back. Is there a reason to that?

I always pull the pad up as far into the gullet as it will go but it eventually works itís way down. If I see itís flat against I usually pull it back out. Also this saddle pad has a cut out for the withers.

I often find myself leaning to one side and have to keep readjusting the saddle to keep it centred on Duke, the pad will sometimes move so much that it will be way off centre and I have to remove the whole saddle to fix it. I donít know if My one leg is shorter than the other or Iím just sitting crooked. If I take my feet out of the stirrups then I feel centered as I donít rely on them.

And yes Duke is a comfy ride bareback. I rode with a bareback pad in the winter to keep warm.

I also have the option of a second rigging ring. So I think Iíll try to put the girth on that second one to see if it will move the girth away from the arm pit.
If your saddle happens to move while riding it will help keep it on the pad and not rubbing on your horses back. If you ride trails at all and are going up and down hills (creek bottoms) it will move. A breast collar also helps a lot in this riding. Very good advise from Tiny on the wool saddle pad, that's all I've used for years.
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