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Do you bridle over your halter?

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#1 ·
I used to on my old QH gelding, and Arab mare, because if I took off their halter to bridle they wouldn't stand still. With my current Appy I don't because he will stand still all day while bridling.
Now when saddling he HAS to be in cross ties because he tries to bite while doing his girth. We have tried everything to get him out of this habit, but the only thing that works is someone hand feeding him grain while I tighten the girth, and there isn't always someone available.
But as far as bridling goes, he is a real champ, I barely have to put my thumb in his mouth to get him to open. And after he is tacked up I don't have to tie him off. I can go to the tack room to get my helmet and put on my boots and come back and he won't have budged an inch.
So do you bridle over, or no? Why or why not?
 
#2 ·
Generally speaking, no. All of my horses get the halter taken off to put the bridle on.

The only exception I have is if I am working a young horse. If I have any trouble getting them to stand still for bridling, I like to have as much control over their head as possible so I leave the halter on. When I'm lunging, I want to work them with the bit in, so I'll leave a halter underneath to lunge them with and have the bridle over the top of it. Then, I can just unsnap the lead and ride. Once they get to the point that they no longer need warmed up before riding and I can bridle them without issue, the halter comes off.
 
#3 ·
I only bridle over my halter when I may need my halter for something, like tying on a trail or training of some sort.

If a horse won't stand still while being bridled if you take off their halter, that's a training issue that I would want to fix rather than putting up with it by not pulling the halter off.
 
#4 ·
On broke horses, no. I also don't go on trails, which is where I've seen the most people doing this (I guess as a 'just in case').

I have done as smrobs mentioned, lunge while a bit is in, and hop on afterwards. Most of the time, though, even greenies only have one piece of tack on their head.
 
#5 ·
Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't.

With my horse, I don't have too. She bridles just fine and leads with a bridle just fine as well.
But if I am saddling up and then doing ground work/lunging before riding I'll leave it on. Or if the bf is going to ride I leave it on underneath as well. He is still a newbie rider so occasionally gets a lunge line lesson.
If I think I'm going to tie at any point, say out on a ride, I leave it on. But with my current horse I can not tie her anymore, so its no longer an issue.
 
#7 ·
It depends on what I'm doing and which horse I'm riding.

If I'm going out to fix fence I do. The horse may have to stand tied (if there are trees) for a while. Most horses I ride are hobble trained, if so, then I don't. I don't leave them on the polo horses during their chukkers. In fact, on them I have rope halters that are too large to put over the headstalls while they are waiting.

If I'm riding with newbies I do leave the halter on under my horse's bridle. It seems like I have to get off a bunch and give the newer riders attention pretty often. Such as adjusting tack for them. And, then I have a halter in case I need to lead someone. I don't trust them to keep track of a lead rope and don't want it dropping and their horse stepping on it.

Some horses I ride go with a bosalito under the headstall and have a get down rope attached.
 
#15 ·
i think i've only left the halter on underneath twice in my life - both times on long trail rides. most of my riding these days is in the arena or just up and down a grassy walkway area at my barn, so not needed. light rope halters fit much better under bridles. the nylon webbing halters just look bulky and make the horse's head look 'cluttered'. i also ride in an english bridle with a cavesson, so a halter would really get in the way.
 
#16 ·
I leave the halter on only with green horses who I want to work with the bit in their mouth but with it not doing anything, with kids that I am ponying (to attach the lead line too. I really try not to lead with the reins in case the horse spooks or something), or if I'm on the trails and the horse isn't great at hobbling yet. Otherwise I do take it off. When I do leave one on though, it is always the rope halter, not a nylon halter because nylon tends to mess with the bridle.
 
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#17 ·
I always leave the halter on but I am mostly a trail / mountain rider and in a wreck where I have to tie a horse fast I don't want to be fumbling with a halter in a saddle bag.
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#18 ·
I only leave the halter on if I'm going off property, at which point I use a rope halter. Otherwise I take off the halter and bridle him. He ground ties so him walking off while I switch gear is not something he sees as an option.

Also wanted to add that if a horse is that cinchy you might want to have him checked for ulcers.
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#19 ·
I'll leave the halter on under the bridle sometimes when I go trail riding. My horse and I are new to trail riding by ourselves (well, I'm new to it... my horse's last owner said she rode on the trail alone most of the time), and it makes me feel better knowing that I can dismount and lead if the need were to come up.
 
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#21 ·
When my horse and I had issues going out alone on the trail I always had a halter and lead on. I have since bought a "cowboy" lead rope with no metal snap --it girth hitches to a rope halter. This combo I use only on long trail rides where we stop for grass or a break. I loop the excess lead around the neck mountie style.
 
#22 ·
No I don't. They need to learn to stand still when bridled so I always start them off in a confined space where they cant see a chance to wander
I do use a headcollar/halter over the top of a bridle when I'm lunging in tack but its not like I'm going to spend that much time working one like that
If I want to tie up on a trail ride I prefer to fasten a rope halter around my waist - I think having any more stuff fastened on its head is likely to be uncomfortable for the horse for several hours especially in how weather
The nipping when tacking up - that's a No No. I wouldn't hand feed to deter as that's almost like rewarding it for doing it. A sharp tap works better I find.
You should make sure that nothing is pinching the horse though and that the saddle fits well and no sore back problems
 
#24 ·
We only hand feed him because we read a study that said if you make it a positive thing, he won't bite. I don't think it's working. I've tried giving him a tap with my hand, lead rope, riding crop etc. Nothing works. The saddle fits fine, no pinching, as the sweat marks are always even. The chiropractor was out last week and said he wasn't ouchy at all, so IDK. I think it's just because he was allowed to do it since he was 3 and now his 16. Old habits die hard I suppose.
 
#23 ·
I keep mine on as a just in case, but also because we are still having trouble bridling him. We can get him bridled however, but he is a butt about it and it's easier to put it on with the halter on.
A few days ago was show time - when we tried putting his bridle on without the help of his halter - I am glad we did this part early because he loves to stick his head in the air. But we are working on it and I have beent trying to take the halter off when his bit is in - Brisco still needs work on that because he has never had to do that before. I tried it once and had to take bridle off. He though I was taking the bit out and it wasn't turning out real pretty - so everything came off. But so far he has been doing pretty good!
 
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#26 ·
I trail ride and do not but many do. I think it is dependent on the horse. I am fortunate to have an awesome mare that will stand still and be saddled without even being tied. the farrier swears he could shoe her without tying her up. I see many people out on the trails that do and I think whatever works for you
 
#27 ·
This is one of my biggest fashion pet peeves, but it's mostly the aesthetic that bugs me. I typically ride my horse with a western noseband and use it to tie just in case. But my mare also ground ties, so it's not a huge issue. I don't allow my horses to move away when changing from halter to bridle.
 
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#28 ·
No, not normally. I recently rode my pony on the road and I did then just because I felt it was a safety precaution. All the horses at the therapy center I volunteer at wear halters under their bridles because we clip on reins to the halter for the riders that way they don't have any bit contact (unless they are good enough to ride with a bit).
 
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