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#21 ·
Affirmed looks very similar. The thing I'm mainly looking as is their hinds. The hind leg in the air's fetlock is about halfway up the planted legs cannon, and yet look how high his forelegs are.

While Seabiscuit, his back legs are in the right spot but his foreleg is already planted hard.
 
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Yeah that's what I was noticing too. I'm sorry if my posts are a bit confusing tonight, I'm heavily medicated at the moment, ha! xD That's what I was trying to say though, the hind leg compared to the forelegs. - well I was going to try and further explain but my brain just went 'plbpht', you basically nailed what I was attempting to convey right on the head though!
 
#23 ·
Such a cool thread! I had never heard of this before~
 
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#24 ·
I have to wonder if Frankel is like this too... He has won all of his fourteen races... That has to be based on much more than luck...
 
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^^ Any pictures of this horse doing that?
 
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I think the real issue is that we are only seeing one photo of a horse in mid stride. Which could be the photos at the exact right or wrong time. We are catching the possible second suspension. What would be better is video or a cut segments of the video (like the first set of images with the gallop laid out). I say this because the trot is a two beat gate in which in theory two feet are off the ground and two feet are on the ground. There are a few examples of horses going at speed at a trot with all four feet of the ground. This does not mean they have a anything other than speed going on. Its just the right photo at the right time. http://www.worldclasstrotting.com/NorthAmerica/Meadowlands/2013/Hambletonian2013/Pictures/RoyaltyForLife_HamboFinal.jpg
 
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the trot is a two beat gate in which in theory two feet are off the ground and two feet are on the ground. There are a few examples of horses going at speed at a trot with all four feet of the ground. This does not mean they have a anything other than speed going on. Its just the right photo at the right time. http://www.worldclasstrotting.com/N...merica/Meadowlands/2013/Hambletonian2013/Pictures/RoyaltyForLife_HamboFinal.jpg
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But maybe that speed is the key.. the modified gait is what makes the great speed attainable.

Have you ever ridden a horse that does what I call a "long trot" like the one you pictured? The feeling of that gait is totally different than the feeling of a "normal" trot, even though both are 2-beat diagonal gaits.

I would love to talk to the jockeys of some of those suspect horses, to hear their opinion of that gallop versus a 'normal' gallop.
 
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Subbing..I'll make my comments tomorrow though when I'm on the actual computer or have forever and a half to play around with picture links and all that.

But, without going into huge detail, I was mainly looking at the first two pictures (I think those were the two). I believe someone mentioned them being at the same stage in the gait..but if you look, the forelegs are opposite. Unless someone can get a photo of two horses in the EXACT same motion, in a motion that is shown in the comparison chart, I cant see judging them as the same stride/motion as fair.

ETA I need to go to bed, lol.
While I still think it needs to be photos taken at the same phase and angle/side, I also didn't realize that the horses were just on different leads, lol. Whoops.
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Iseul said:
Subbing..I'll make my comments tomorrow though when I'm on the actual computer or have forever and a half to play around with picture links and all that.

But, without going into huge detail, I was mainly looking at the first two pictures (I think those were the two). I believe someone mentioned them being at the same stage in the gait..but if you look, the forelegs are opposite. Unless someone can get a photo of two horses in the EXACT same motion, in a motion that is shown in the comparison chart, I cant see judging them as the same stride/motion as fair.

ETA I need to go to bed, lol.
While I still think it needs to be photos taken at the same phase and angle/side, I also didn't realize that the horses were just on different leads, lol. Whoops.
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Yeah, they're at the same stage, just different leads.

I don't think the pictures need to be exactly perfect, that would be tough anyway with what we're finding, you can still see their front legs are higher up than most.

I was wondering before, as the last poster mentioned, if it does depend on speed. They may just be going slightly faster enough to stretch out further.
 
#32 ·
One of the big differences in him was the angle of his stride.....

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But the thing that really separated him from the crowd was that he had a very oversized heart. That allowed him to pump a lot more oxygenated blood while he was running

Large Heart Gene
 
#33 ·
You are right phantom horse at that speed it the gait does smooth out and its amazing to ride. I just wonder if speed is the larger factor than genes. Than again, dogs and horses share a number of genes so this could be that example.
 
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This is fascinating! Subbing!
 
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