If the girth was indeed tight my recommendation is to get a saddle fitter out. I can recommend possible fixes for a saddle sliding forward or back but side to side, to me anyway, would indicate a girth issue.

What style of girth are you using? Have you tried different versions to see if those would help?

 

When was the last time your saddle was professionally fitted to this horse?
That's your first port of call.

 

This is not my horse so i can't spread a lot of money on a new saddle. And the saddle is the only thing at the barn that fits her right and I know it fit because the owner had her fitter a mouth a go. I have use a difface grit and it still slips.

 

If a fitter has been out than the owner needs to recontact the fitter and either get them out again or get a recommendation as to the type of girth to use or other areas to address. A saddle that slips that severely with a tight girth is NOT a well fitted saddle.

As for the non-slip pad previously mentioned, those work for front and back sliding, not side to side.

 

Their are not a lot of saddle fitter in the area and the one that are very price so what I would like to know is if they would be something else I could do that would maybe help and we only have two dressage grit and the other one is way too big

 

Not much else you can do other than for the owner to find a different style saddle (maybe an event or equitation saddle vice a dressage saddle), a different girth or get back into contact with a saddle fitter.

At the very worst the owner can try a breastplate but those are designed, again, to keep a saddle from slipping back and doesn't control side to side. It MIGHT stop the saddle from going ALL the way to the side but the saddle is still going to slip.

 

The same thing happened to me and my horse. But when I got up off the ground and had to take the saddle off and put it back on, it went up and good three more holes EASILY. You could say my horse likes to blow out and trick me. Even when we checked it, she somehow knew and blew out. Silly mare

 

That what I though the first time but this is the soncd time it happen and I know it was tight I Check it two time after my trainer did and it was fine

 

I wonder if its possible that the saddle is to wide??( since you said her roundness got better) I know nothing about this, im just wondering.. Since you can't get a saddle fitter. I was trying saddles once and I had a really nice one on trial. Turns out it was to wide, cause it slid off easily. Im sure there are videos out their that show how to check for saddle fit-English though. Since saddle fitter is not an option that's what I would do. Also, horses change. The saddle might have fitted when it was fitted but it could not fit now. It happened to me once. Does the owner know its slips like this? If not you should mention it, maybe they can do something about it.

 

The owner is my trainer and she the one that said to use a non slip pad but I was. Just wondering if their was something else I could do to help

 

Since all she said was to use a non-sip pad, I would just be ready for anything. Keep your heels down, and stay in the middle of the saddle. You cant do anything else equipment wise. When I fell off my horse because of saddle I was not paying attention. I was just a looking at the sky I wish you best of luck in your lessons on the ill fitting saddle.

 

If the saddle does fit(not all fitters are created equal) another possibility is that the horse has a forward girth grove, with my appy I have to use an anatomical girth or else the saddle will slip. When the saddle is on the horse pay attention to where the billets line up, if they don't fall where the horses girth grove is(flat spot behind the elbows) then an anatomical may help since the girth will migrate to that spot causing the saddle to be less balanced. An anatomical girth curves so the buckles will line up with the billets but still allow the girth to stay in the girth grove.
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What kind of saddle is it?

I find this is a really common thing with air saddles. Until the back atrophies enough that the spine will hold the saddle on, but if the horse is overweight this effect would probably be negated.

As well, pony probably needs a diet.

IMO I would tell the owner you'll ride the horse when it is in a correct weight and has a well fitting saddle. Otherwise it's too dangerous! Your health should come first and if your coach is not on board with that, find a new coach...
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Side slip is often due to the saddle being too narrow, I've found. Horses are all one-sided to a greater or lesser degree and the big shoulder forces the saddle to one side. I've even had the fat roll behind the horse's shoulder cause similar with my own horse, in this case forcing one panel back so the tree twisted ie. the channel moved to one side forcing the rear panel across the horse's spine.

So I agree with everyone who said 'get saddle checked'.

Oh, and tightening the girth usually makes the problem worse since it forces the saddle closer to the horse's uneven musculature, with predictable results. And makes it difficult for the rider to re-set the saddle by putting more weight into one iron. It's lose-lose, unfortunately

 

Part way thro the lesson the girth should be checked again. My arab was walked and cinched in three stages. An hour into a trail ride the cinch was loose enough to easily slide my whole hand thro. I had to snug it up several times on a two hour ride.

 

[I would tell the owner you'll ride the horse when it is in a correct weight and has a well fitting saddle. Otherwise it's too dangerous! Your health should come first and if your coach is not on board with that, find a new coach.../QUOTE] anebel the trainer ask me to help the pony lose about 25 pound and I don't have a choose on what saddle I use because it is the only one that fits her well. And the trainer I use I trust to know when a horse is too much for me I have know this trainer for 6 years and my mom has know her for about 25 year so I know this trainer well and their is no better trainer in the area. It was my fuslt the fall had happen if I had not have put a bit more wight on one side then it would not have happen and I know that this pony is a good pony because before I fell we had been doing walk and tort work in frame and on the bit most of the time so I do not want to give up a great horse like her on the saddle slip. but I was just wonder if their was a way that would help it not slip

 

And I am not sure what type of saddle it is I can take a look on Sunday

 

And the pony is on hey only nothing else unless it's a treat

 

Why can the pony not be lunged as exercise for a couple of weeks, then reevaluate the fit of the saddle?
If doesn't matter how good the pony is, if the saddle doesn't fit and is slipping to the side, it is dangerous. The pony could be a saint and stop happily with you swinging around under its belly, but it is still dangerous!
If you put more weight on one stirrup, then yes you need to learn to have a more balanced seat, BUT in a saddle that slips sideways, this is impossible. As soon as it starts to slide even slightly off centre, your balance will be off and then it's just a circle of unbalance until the saddle is forced so sideways that it slips right around.

Anebel is right, get some weight off the pony so it is not so round, and get the saddle refitted properly - not a quick look at it and deciding it'll do.
What happens if the saddle slips around under the horse and you get stuck in it? Yes, I have seen it happen to a child on a pony and she ended up being knocked unconscious. Not nice.
Get it fixed.

 

My sit is fine if you look at what a had said before how it happen you would know that I had not put a lot of wight on the left side it was just little bit and because she turn the other way and that fouse cause the saddle to slip. And this horse is not over wight at all it just she is build rounder then most horse. And this has only ever happen at the canter.

 

And if you look at what I just said, if you're sitting in a saddle that is sitting slightly to one side it is impossible to sit balanced in the saddle. I did not say that you have a poor seat.

Clearly you don't want to do anything about this issue, we can't wave a magic wand and make the saddle fit unless it gets professionally fitted. So go ahead and keep doing what you're doing and hope that it doesn't happen again.

 

It's not that I don't want to do even thing its that it is not my place to tell my trainer what to do.Thank to even one who posted but i think what I am going to have to do is just trust my trainer with all I have on this one

 

Don't mean to be rude but.....why did you even post this thread? you obviously had a set opinion at the start....Saddle slipping = bad fitting saddle like everyone said. But I guess your trainer knows better then all of the HF population that has replied to your thread. good luck.

 

But the thing is I have told her the saddle does not fit right and she said it was fine. This was when I first start riding the pony. And I talk to someone that was riding her before me and all saddle fit her really bad

 

But the thing is I have told her the saddle does not fit right and she said it was fine. This was when I first start riding the pony. And I talk to someone that was riding her before me and all saddle fit her really bad

Here's a few links on how to identify if the saddle is fitting properly or not, and what damage an ill fitting saddle can do not only to the horse, but the danger to the rider of a horse that misbehaves because the saddle is causing them pain.


http://www.bcctra.ca/AAEP_submission.pdf

http://www.sarahlinton.com/saddlefit/signs.html

For 6 months my "saddle fitter" (she also sold me the saddle) told me my saddle was fine, for 6 months I told her no its isn't, it was slipping to the right and popping forward.. I found another saddle fitter who re-fit my saddle and all was fine. I sold that saddle...and bought a Schleese dressage saddle, that fits me and my mare to perfection.

Not all saddles are created equal, cheaper is not better imo. What type of saddle is it? And can you get another saddle fitter out to re-fit that saddle? I understand its not your horse, but if you can spend $$ on lessons, why not spend some of those lesson $$ on a saddle that fits well. The horse will work better for you and will mover better for you with it fitting properly.

 

It look kind of like the pic in this link (as in the sweat pattern on her back.) ://www.flickr.com/photos/endurancerider/2521397773/
But she does not act like the saddle hurt and I would not know were to start if I was to look for a saddle

 

The saddle it wintec dressage saddles not sure what model